Usage of Guild bank

In the past few months we have had around 3 or 4 people hacked.  Everyone who was hacked did not have an authenticator.  They were only allowed access to part of the GB and most of the stuff was saved as a result.  I know its annoying to ask an officer, but once you get an authenticator you can open up any part of the guild bank except the last tab.

As to the clutter and mis-management issues, its already being discussed among the officers.  Several officers have had RL issues and others are playing Rift (*cough IKI GROZ cough*).  We are currently trying to work out a better system.

These are some good ideas,and it's nice to see someone taking an interest.  I don't agree with all of them, but it's a start.  Personally I know if I need something the GB is the last place I look because I feel like the current system makes it to hard.  I understand the authenticator issue and I think it's valid, but that chains nicely in to another point.

Another thing worth noting is that who is in what guild ranks needs a look.  I'm still a Komsomol; according to the post here I shouldn't be.  I followed the instructions and pinged an officer, I was told Tal would be notified, that was the end of that.  I have an authenticator, if more stuff in the GB should be accessible to me I did not know that, I suspect it's a matter of me being in the rank I'm in.

All this said; I don't care that much.  I'm not going to get frustrated or anything, but it does sometimes strike me that we are a 25-man raiding guild with a lot of members that has the bank policies of a much smaller guild.  Maybe nobody has stepped up with an obsession with order and bank optimization.  Maybe we should make it Nordberg's job, he has the OCD and the guilt, I bet he'd be good at it.

Wyf, I hate to smack back at you because it's always good for someone to put out a well-thought post on an issue that affects us all, ie. the guild bank.  That said, I have a real pet peeve about what I dub excessive guild bank criticism.  One of your complaints is that there is useless crap in there.  To me, that argument is utterly moot as long as there is ample space, and there is.  You reference a couple of idols someone put in there after an old school night.  You'd be surprised how many people at some point or another are doing a rep grind and find interest in things like that.  Who cares if they sit in there a few months?  There are also a lot of Wrath-level mats, but on the other hand, there is plenty of space available and we have a lot of folks who like to roll alts.  Why not make it easy on them to level their professions?

Again, I appreciate your time and interest, and some of your points are reasonable, but again, over-organizing the bank is irrelevant while there remains ample space. 

If you don't have an authenticator, you fail at wow. No excuse.
The bank is almost entirely locked to people without one.
there have been something like 10+ reasons for it.

I have to agree with tart. Unless tal decides otherwise noone without an authenticator should be aloud access past tab one. If you want something then just ask for it. I bet I move things for folks several times a week to tab on so its not like its a big deal. I also think the lower lvl items do have value for folks with alts. As long as we have room I would rather have something in there and not need it then somones need it and not have it.

In my time in the guild, which is coming up on six years this September, we've had a very large number of reasons to restrict access. I don't care how careful you are, how little time you spend online, or how little you log into the game, there's always possibility of your account being taken over by a third party. The bank rules weren't just arbitrarily created as you seem them here. Originally we had little to no control over things, except for one tab with all the super expensive epic things. It didn't work, because things kept going missing, including several months' work of raid-only crafting materials. So we locked it down a little bit tighter. Then someone got hacked and removed practically everything. Locked it down a bit more. Happened again, so only officers were able to pull things out. Then officers started getting hacked, and thus do we stand at the point of requiring an authenticator.

All you need to do is ask. There's plenty of officers available, even if some have started spending their time on other games or dealing with life issues. I think there's something like ten or fifteen of us around? There's a lot, regardless.

And above all else, get an authenticator. 6.50$ and you never have to worry about account security again.

I know, I know, but we still have a problem...

How about setting up a new tab with consumables, trade skill items, lower level (under L70) enchants and glyphs that we can all access? Things that the mats cost more or are rarer recipes and such could be handled as they are now. But this way people would have access to a decent array of items without having to ask for things all the time. Require a authenticator for use of this new tab.

There are many times I have to ask 2 or 3 days in a row and then have to send an in-game mail to get an item or spend what gold I have to purchase something we have stacks of in the bank. Worse, I will ask in guild chat and NO ONE even acknowledges that I said anything. Make a person feel real good....

I do deposit items gathered or made by myself or my alts (only 1 is in NO, several others have bank guilds.) And if I have items requested by others just sitting around I do share (so please yell if you need something.)

PS: Thanks to Waka for fetching and mailing, it's much appreciated.

I have an authenticator and only have access to just the first tab too. Just letting someone know. Leliah is the same.

-Ken

A LOT of us have authenticators and even posted we have authenticator and still do not have access.  I don't really care I just ask for stuff and get it.  Just wanted to point that out though.

Seems the issue is with the Comrade rank, which a lot of you have. Comrade is the "standard" member rank. Most people are going to be at Comrade rank. It's the highest rank you can have without having an authenticator.

Bolshevik is also a standard member rank. Bolsheviks have authenticators, and have been an active member of the guild for a while. That last part is important. If you are a Comrade, but you only log in to play for a little bit every 4 months or so and you don't really interact with guild much, then you're going to be at Comrade for a while.

We tend not to demote so once at a rank, someone will stay there unless they get Archived. This is why you see some people at certain ranks that you may never have heard of or seen.

The other issue seems to be with the amount of bank access that Comrade has. Apparently Comrade can only access the first tab? I thought Comrades had a bit more access than that. I know we don't want Comrades to have too much access, due to the authenticator thing, but I'll ask Tal about granting some limited access to other tabs. Beyond that, if you want more access then you need to pony up and get an authenticator, AND start being more active and visible in guild.

I also did a sweep through the roster today and archived some people, fixed ranks, and promoted others. You're welcome.

This is Abs and how the hell this post got digged up after so long :D

hail 'Professor Arahila'

just kidding :)

The 1st tab is a bit limited for guildies under the Bolshevik rank. but as Chem said, for most of the time its easy to find someone online who can grab items from the later Tabs and I am pretty sure they will be more than glad to do so( at least i do :D)

And if you really want the Bolshevik rank, here is what exactly you need to do (just make iky's reply shorter ^^):

1. Be an active member and earn a general recognition among your fellow guilies. talk in the guild chat, get on mumble, join us for the raid and post here on the forum, all helps

2. You NEED an authenticator and that's for sure. also remember to post your screenshot proof on the forum as well (remmeber the Hat!!!!)

3. This is the most important part, you should ASK for your promotion once you achieved 1 & 2, just keep bugging Iky untill she promotes you(that's what I did ^_^)

Having a program like AVG or MalawareBytes is also a good idea along with the communicator.

Can we get another guild tab and put rep and quest items in it? Items required to get pets like the Hex Stcks and Dark Iron Ale? And especially items that drop that start quests? I would think that those people working on the Loremaster achievement would really appreciate those without having to hunt them all down or buying them from the AH.

Perhaps the gear on the first tab could be moved back since much of it has sat there for some time

Tumorbane:

"There are also a lot of Wrath-level mats, but on the other hand, there is plenty of space available and we have a lot of folks who like to roll alts.  Why not make it easy on them to level their professions?"

There are people trying to level professions that need lower than Wrath mats and these are much more expensive. It would be very helpful if people wpould think about deposit those when the happen to get them as well. We've been trading and digging out personal banks lately and that has helped.

Still waiting for my promotion (please don't hurt me.) Also made Honored with the guild last night.