Tibor's Glorious Cataclysm Megathread!

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Good afternoon, fellow Warcraft nerds!  It is I, everlasting hero of the revolution Tibor!  I bring to you joy and good tidings for basking in Tibor's reflected glory.

Seeing as how Tibor once rescued Comrade Emrys from sticky situation in Uzbekistan involving triplets and angry war minister father, Emrys has cheerfully agreed to pass beta invitation over to Tibor.  That's right, Cataclysm beta now have 100% more rockstar cat-man!

But Tibor is not without pity for poor, poor Warcraft nerds judged too lame for Cataclysm beta.  This is why Tibor is posting glorious thread!  Here, you may ask your feebleminded questions about if for dead elf girl has new hairdo or how many goat buttocks must collect for new quest.  Tibor will answer, if not bore Tibor to death!

So post questions and away!

 

EDIT: FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

Tibor, can you tell me about [class mechanic or talent]?

Keep in mind that Tibor is rockstar cat-man!  Why would rockstar cat-man roll any other class than cat-man?  That's right, would not!  Tibor will eventually roll goblin to see what fuss is about, and may eventually pick other premade character to experience stink of non-druid failure, but for time being questions about other class details may disappoint.

For best results, ask Tibor about lore questions.  Plan is for Tibor to experience 80+ content as well as explore lowbie content for notice changes.  Eventually Tibor may overcome hatred of other Warcraft nerds to try instances.

Tibor, can you post video of things in the beta?

Unfortunately, Tibor is playing WoW on salvaged Amstrad PC from early 80s overclocked with pieces stolen from aborted Kyrgyzstan cyclotron project; video is beyond Tibor abilities at moment.  Tibor may be able to post screenshots if properly bribed.  (Send babushka porn to tibor@totally-not-spetsnaz-front-website.ru) 

I hate you, Tibor.

Ha ha!  As if anyone could hate Tibor truly.  Also, is not question.

Hm

Tranquility's picture

Has the reduction in talent pools made a bad change, mighty Tibor?

Do hunters and priests really suck as much as their talents indicate?

Is the whole Blood Is The DK Tank thing actually working?

What do Worgen get for mounts?

Are all the races getting new Racials on par with Worgen and Goblins, like they said? If so, what?

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Has the reduction in talent pools made a bad change, mighty Tibor?

Tibor has mixed feelings about new talent system.  Is good that is now next to impossible to make stupid talents.  Is bad now that cannot weed out mouthbreathing player by noticing stupid talents.  Right now druid talent system is stupid, but say is going to fix; not sure if cat and bear remain separate or can do both now.  Would be interesting to play ugly chicken thing for secondary spec.

Do hunters and priests really suck as much as their talents indicate?

Unknown, for Tibor is neither little girl nor serial arsonist.  Will report on how many hunters and priests Tibor sees weeping openly in cities.

Is the whole Blood Is The DK Tank thing actually working?

Tibor will eventually try Death Knight to see, but tanking requires dealing with other Warcraft nerds, something Tibor dislikes almost as much as turnip vodka Tibor brother makes with extra newspaper.

What do Worgen get for mounts?

As far as Tibor know, not in game yet.  Popular culture would suggest ugly fat weepy teenage girl.  (How you say in English, "Heyooooooooooo")

Are all the races getting new Racials on par with Worgen and Goblins, like they said? If so, what?

Tibor may answer question WHEN GOD DAMN CLIENT FINISH PATCHING

Oh Great Tibor

Shinwaka's picture

A simple request for one has great as you.

 

I want my enhancement totems back

 

Oh and cleansing totem too.

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Refresh Tibor memory - totems are things shaman put on floor right before get one-shot, correct?

Well

Glomoro's picture

They're also, situationally speaking, the things shaman drop to slow people down while they run, screaming and flailling their arms around/with their ghost tail between their legs. Depends on the fight or flight response. =P

Tibor

Talarashne's picture

How is it to fly over the old world and Orgrimmar?

More importantly, what will it be like to fly with a 40 man armada wearing parachute cloaks and then skydiving into Stormwind to kill their king?

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Very good flying in old world.  Tibor spend five minutes running across bridges in Thunder Bluff before realizes stupid brain and flies.  Landscape is different, good way to see changes.  Tibor recommend fly up to Orgrimmar first time, not portal; entire city has "fuck off away now" written all over it.

Does not seem to be airborne defenses yet.  Tibor thinks will change.

 

 

Screenshots!

Flynn's picture

(Posting for Tibor, because you can't get a photobucket account from southern Asia apparently.)  This is the new Orgrimmar auction house, appropriately now run by goblins.

 

TIBOR!

How different is it?

Kael's picture

Is it basically the same layout just with different colours and maybe a few buildings moved around? Or am I going to get lost when I zone in, panic, and sit shivering in a corner until someone ports me to Dalaran?

Or does everyone hang out in TB now?

Orgrimmar.

Flynn's picture

Photobucket

The buildings on the right side are general goods, inn, and auction house. The big monstrosity in the middle where the bank used to be is Garrosh's palace. The bank is the first building on the left (also run by goblins). On the tier above are situated the zeppelin towers and some portal business with the Earthen Ring. The basic layout is the same, but things have changed significantly. It'll be easy enough to pick up. As a nice touch, the insides of the various shops are better decorated. Shelves full of bottles and books and such instead of just rock walls and a vendor standing in the middle of the room.

Thunder Bluff has not changed, but whether they just haven't gotten to it or if it's remaining the same is anyone's guess.

Well good

Kael's picture

That layout makes it much easier for me to stand aside and watch when the alliance comes to murder Garrosh.

Garrosh.

Tibor's picture

No need alliance kill Garrosh, as Garrosh constantly in danger of asphyxiation due to insufficient nasal passages due to extremely tiny head.

Oh Tibor

Cile's picture

If I want to lull the goblins into a false sense of security, how do I increase my rep with them? Are there still runecloth turn-ins or is there a new method?

Is Stratholme still around for my to continue my ritualistic slaughter of the Baron?

Did Karazhan survive the cataclysm intact?

Answer!

Tibor's picture

New goblin faction = Bilgewater Cartel.  Tibor went to see if could skive Steamwheedle rep doing updated Goblin quests, no dice.  Looks like have to keep running Dire Maul if want old rep.  Not sure if Bilgewater Cartel cloth turn-in, will see if can find.

Stratholme still there as far as Tibor knows, but heard last boss changed and drops new mount.  Not sure if implemented, haven't been to Plaguelands yet.

Karazhan still there.  Tibor flew up to gryphon perch.  Live gryphons there now for some reason.  Also, can fly over non-instanced Zul'Gurub.

A follow-up

Cile's picture

Have the goblins turned up at the argent tournament in Northrend? Perhaps you can get rep there.

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Currently no way to skive Bilgewater rep.  If TBC any guide, can turn in cloth to Goblin quartermaster on day 1, but not in game now.  No goblin faction at tournament, unlikely to be.

What's Undercity like?

Melindra's picture

I would love to see a ss of UC if/when you can. Am also wondering if they took the rare tamable spawns out--King Bangy, Hummar the Pride Lord, etc. I realize murdercat is not hunter, but the wild cats are kin of a sort.

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Photobucket

 

Top part of undercity mostly same, just more ruins around courtyard.  Inside of Undercity same, only can fly.

Tibor saw King Bangalash when flying through Stranglethorn.  Assume if zone isn't for making completely redone (like Azshara) most of old content remains.

Echo Islands

Tranquility's picture

Did they put the new Troll place in yet? And is Gnomeregan taken back?

And... what's to the west of Brill? Currently it's a wide flat plain like a lot of blocked areas. But in the lore there's an Old God buried under Tirisfal there.. now that we can reach it, have they done anything with it?

Answer!

Tibor's picture

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Presume Gnomeregan in similar condition.  If fly closer, actually full of Troll trainers and such, draw distance is low.  (For reference, this is same island kill Zalazane on.)

West of Brill = not much.  Everything outside of normal Forsaken lowbie-zone content is mountains.

Flying?

Xyro's picture

Mr. Tibor:

Are you allowed to fly right from the start? I'm pretty sure you can, but I know there was still some question over it.

Is there any 'new' flying training to buy? I know there was talk about having a flying training, to make all your 280% mounts, 310% mounts. Still not sure if this was something they were going to do, if it'd be a one time buy or PER mount.

Any new or major PvP features as of yet? Armor, weapons or bg instances it self?

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Tibor load beta, immediately go to Thunder Bluff.  Spend several minutes running across bridges before Tibor rumble flight form button not greyed out, feel very stupid.  Can fly immediately on back in Azeroth; no idea how will be implemented in actual game but no cost involved.

No new flying ranks yet.  Rumor is make 310% flying standard somehow and upgrade all mounts to 310%, but not implemented yet.  (Speaking of flying mounts, would not believe douches hovering over Orgrimmar on frostwyrms and Mimiron head mounts.  "Look at me, I need validation" not restricted to Dalaran now.)

No clue on PVP yet.  Tibor not big fan PVP, but will try out new PVP zones when possible.  Still futzing around in Hyjal and with old world content at moment.

Update!

Tibor's picture

New flying rank in game and trainable.  5000g to make 310% instead of 280%.  If have 310% mount, not need to buy, apparently.

Wait...

Cile's picture

So do all my current epic flyers become 310% speed when I get the training, or does that just allow me to learn the 310% speed mounts?

The first one

Kael's picture

I think

I'm honestly not sure, and I

Rhalla's picture

I'm honestly not sure, and I even went and trained the 310 speed mount. All my mounts are currently showing that they increase my movement speed by 0%, which is clearly not true. I'm definitely going speedily, but I can't really tell the difference between 280 and 310 since I've never had a 310 mount anyway.

The original posts about this indicated that once you learned a speed tier, all the category mounts would upgrade to that speed, so you could use your wide variety of mounts to all fly at 310 (or run at 100). I haven't confirmed that this is the case yet.

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Tibor not sure how currently work - beta buggy as shit, can't even be sure 310% flight form is 310% without elaborate testing - but eventually is this.  If have 310% mount from previous, all mounts become 310%.  If not, spend 5k gold, all mounts become 310%.  Idea is not to have everyone on server stuck on ugly purple dragon or flying sparkly horse belong on shelf in bedroom of pre-teen girl.

Hooray!

Tibor's picture

Here is for Tibor bumping thread to honor Rhalla, who have been judged worthy enough to enter beta.  Rest of you should spend time reflecting on personal failings.  (Also suggest logging into battle.net from time to time, as email is easy to miss with all the spam.)

To keep board from looking like Uzbek pig farm, suggest all Beta question and answer stay in thread.

Tibor have not been playing new zones much, as bug reporting broken and Hyjal is kind of crap at moment.  Heard good things about other zones, so will advance shortly to see underwater areas and other neat stuff.  Answers to questions still available.

Why the picture?

Rhalla's picture

Forgive Rhalla, but she is curious. Is not your picture one of "Zed" and not "Tibor"?

Zed is lesson, how to be man.

Tibor's picture

Only Sean Connery can dress in red diaper and knee boots and suspenders and ever hope to touch woman again.  Secret is bitchin' moustache.

Update.

Tibor's picture

Tibor have been making way through Hyjal, is starting zone for Cataclysm.  Thoughts.

 

1) Zone is looking much for better now.  Many subzones, nice clustered quests, fun fights.

2) Mobs hit like nuclear train.  Pull two at once, have bad day.  Pull three at once, maybe die.  Four mobs, inform next of kin.

3) Itemization VERY GOOD.  Tibor in T10-level gear, first pieces available were sidegrades.  Tibor have replaced much of gear so far in moving through zone, and probably about halfway done.  Everything Mastery now, is very important.  Also, no more clownsuits.  All gear in zone for each "set" coordinated.  (All agility leather look similar, et cetera.)

4) Tibor sad, mobs no longer fall down 2-3 mangles tops.  Now must actually use bleeds when fighting mobs.  If no bleed, press mangle all day.  Now mangle, rake, rip, mob fall down very fast.  Still killing machine, just different keys.

5) Expect be done Hyjal soon, move to Vash'jir.

6) For some reason spectral death gryphons move walking speed.  Tibor read Dostoevsky while flying back to corpse.

 

UPDATE:  Have finished Hyjal.  Entire zone is awesome.  Awesome loot, awesome XP, awesome quests.  Basically, go through zone, waking up old powers, and instead of standing off and saying "you handle it" at end they come along and help you kick bad guys in face.  Tibor heading to Vash'jir next.

Sweet

Shinwaka's picture

Your updates are reinvigorating my hope this expansion will be awesome ;)

 

I keep cringing on Enhancement Shaman "upgrades".

Hmmm...

Hoke's picture

If the mobs are on steroids, I wonder if drain tanking multiple mobs to level as a warlock will still be possible.  I'm hoping they make the agro building abilities of the Felguard and Voidwalker strong enough to keep them off of us. 

Mob Strength.

Tibor's picture

Tibor find that once geared properly things improve - at 82, have ~45k health in cat form, and can burn through mobs one at a time without losing health.  Still, best advice when enter Hyjal or Vash'jir as fresh 80 with WOTLK gear, play like scared little girl until get hang of things.  Tibor enjoyed watching stupid mage try to AOE 12 mobs and get face punched in, then whine at Tibor for not helping.  Also - may change on live, but on beta, WOTLK "adjustable respawn" sensor cranked to max.  Meaning, many people killing mobs, very fast respawn.  Bad side effect; Tibor got caught in endless fight chain in one subzone.  Kill mob, respawn on top of Tibor.  Kill mob, respawn on top of Tibor.  Tibor have to break quest items on anvil with mob punching in face, then run away.  Expect to die a few times before get hang of Cataclysm.

Tibor enjoying cinematic nature of quests.  In a way, Hyjal entire zone is like Wrathgate questline; big stuff happens, builds to climax, fun event battle.  Zone is much bigger than seems at first glance, too; quest hubs are smaller, fewer quests, but there are more of them.

Tibor dislike new "instant quest" technology - sometimes, you kill mob, and quest appear in log, "Kill 8 more".  For stealthy cat-man who sometimes sneaks past unrelated mobs, means missing out on free experience.

Working on Vash'jir.  Currently Maelstrom broken, if not hit level cap when Vash'jir done will try Deepholm.  Zones currently shit XP all over you, will probably change before live (is to prevent someone from clearing content before level cap raised and not be able to make 85, Tibor thinks).

How is Tibor's video card holding up?

Melindra's picture

I know TIbor built his current rig, but I can't remember what video card you're running....I am wondering how much of a jump in graphics Cata is compared to Wrath. I would like to upgrade soon and am trying to decide between a video card with 1g of memory vs. 2g. Has Tibor's current set-up been sufficent for the beta?

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Tibor is still using GeForce 8800 GTS 512 - the good 512 card, not the stupid one.  Tibor gets about 30-60fps in Dalaran on live with most sliders at max or 3/4; in Cat Tibor has turned many down to 1/2.  Definitely thinking about upgrading before expansion, but game still playable.

Admittedly, Tibor has done nothing involving groups or raiding, which is where FPS problems usually show up.

Hey Tibor

kibito's picture

any chance you are in a guild on beta or heard/seen anything about the guild perks? =D

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Tibor giggle girlishly at suggestion Tibor could tolerate other Warcraft nerds long enough to join beta guild. 

Tibor have seen list of guild perks, earned with "guild XP".  Guild XP earned by guild members basically doing anything constructive in game.  (In other words, many guilds screwed.)  As level, get things like bonuses to rep gain, bonuses to XP earned, bonus gold from looting mob go into guild bank, all the way up to mass rez and teleport abilities.  Also is guild rep, but not sure how works, if GM gets to set awards or if works on set schedule.  This is for get things like new phoenix mount make hardcore Warcraft nerds cry, threaten quit playing, find job, and maybe touch woman someday.

 

Gold Sinks?

Ogg's picture

Tibor, is there any word on the costs for the "necessary" perks of playing in the expansion (like 310% flying costs, fancy mounts, training new professions,etc)? I know that this question was sort of answered about a month ago, but I just want to know how much gold I need to carry into the next expansion to make 3-4 max level characters playable.

Partial Answer!

Tibor's picture

310% flying is 5000g.  Tibor not mess with professions yet, but expect not too expensive.  Vash'jir shit new jewelcrafting patterns all over Tibor, nice trinkets.  As for mounts, only new mount is Vash'jir seahorse mount, and get through minigame quest.  Most gold sinks not yet implemented.

PICS NAO!

Severlesk's picture

Sev want more pictures. Sev likes seeing pretty scenery like Hyjal trees and water themed stuff in Vash'jir. Him liked the new pretty AH pics and troll islands and me want to see more prettiness... Pretty Please!

Picture!

Tibor's picture

Tibor only poor rockstar cat-man, have to take part-time job as questgiver in beta.

Photobucket

(yes, is actual quest to be questgiver.)

COMPLIMENT!

Severlesk's picture

Tibor wear golden exclamation point well.

Tibor find best quest in Cataclysm.

Tibor's picture

When Cataclysm drops, fly to Kargath.  From there, fly around south-central part of zone with low-level quest tracking on until find dwarf, gnome, and orc around campfire.  Quest called "The Day Deathwing Came".  Do self a favor, avoid spoilers.  Is totally worth it.

achievements

Cile's picture

Are the achievement implemented yet? Whats the new mount count I need for the extension of 'Mountain o' mounts' and what's the reward?

Also, any other ones with interesting rewards I should be aware of?

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Achievements NYI.  Only ones are for stone drakes, which are Glory of Blank achievements, can see on MMO-Champion.

Ranked/Rated BGs? New Dungeons?

Xyro's picture

Are they implemented yet? Do you have any 411 on em? How about the "New WG", is it still a lul fest for the Alliance? I can't remember the name of the place right now, sorry. And yes, I know I asked a previous PvP question...but...MOAR PVP!

Also, have you pugged any of the newer 5 man instances yet? How hard are they really if you have? Last I heard they were a big wake up call for people use to WOTLK dungeons, which is pretty much pull and AoE.

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Tibor avoiding PVP.  New WG will probably be like old WG, that is, main problem is with Horde on Farstriders being extremely bad at Warcraft.

Tibor have not tried new dungeons, because Tibor would rather be genitals savaged by wolverine than be forced rely on other Warcraft nerds.  Also, with addons all broken, playing WoW beta like trying play WoW with feet.  Tibor focusing on single-player content and lore at moment, will eventually get around to other stuff.

WARNING!

Tibor's picture

Was just made official - Zul'Gurub is go away in Cataclysm.  If want stupid mounts or stupid raptor pet, best get cracking.  Everything else stay.

New beta build raise level cap to 85, open all zones.  Tibor look forward to finishing Vash'jir and moving to mid-level zones.

Oooh

Ikuri's picture

Good to know. We'll make a seperate post about this to spread the word. Since it's only a 3 day lockout, people should consider putting some groups together to go in there and farm the mounts and pet.

Update!

Tibor's picture

Tibor make it to Deepholm.  Level 83, 54k health in cat form, mobs have 50-60k health.  Everything hit very, very hard now; nasty melee mobs can do 27k damage before die.  Fights last long enough to use multiple finishers. For reference, end of WOTLK, Tibor press Mangle 3 times, mob die.  Now, open with Faerie Fire - Mangle - Mangle - Rake - Rip - Mangle - Mangle - Savage Roar - Mangle - Mangle - Ferocious Bite - maybe mob dead.  Key is keeping bleeds up, with Mastery, do very much damage.  Still take forever, almost like fight trash in raid.

Word is mobs overtuned at moment, but expect days of "grab handful of mobs, press AOE few times, collect loot" may be over for good.

Update!

Tibor's picture

Tibor have return from Beta land, with exciting news! 

First, is implement charge for flying in Azeroth.  Cost 250 gold.

Second, Archaeology in game now.  Good news is, interesting interface.  Bad news is grindy as fuck.  When open map, shovels mark "dig sites".  Fly to dig site, click "survey".  Marker comes up telling you direction and "cold, warm, hot" distance to piece.  When find piece, collect 1-5 parts of artifact, artifact can be many pieces (30-50).  When find three pieces, must move to new dig site.

Pieces divided by type.  In Barrens, find fossil pieces, hunting for some trilobyte.  In Dire Maul, find Night Elf pieces, hunting for stupid nightgown.  Common artifacts just lore garbage, work up to really neat stuff like A'Q bug mount can use anywhere.

Archaeology will for take very much time to max out, and not sure what other rewards, but assume will be worth it.  (Also confirm - crawling hand pet come from archaeology.)

Tibor currently finish all finished new content in game, avoiding last two zones because no quest rewards/questlines end in middle.

Fishing in the dirt?

Melindra's picture

Archaeology sounds like fishing....oh jesus help. Maybe we'll get bling shovels and a dirt clod mount?

 

Thank you Tibor for your fine update!!

Harrison Jones Hat

Talarashne's picture

+5 to Archaeology Surveying...

You know it's coming....

Personal opinon?

Xyro's picture

Given that Cata beta is most likely drawing to a close soon, considering that they seems to be working on the last few areas now. How long would you speculate until Cata is released...before the years end?

Possible Answer?

Joxmu's picture

I don't have the beta, but due to the fact that they decided mid-way through Beta to change ALL trees for ALL specs, I'd imagine they have until at least Mid-December until they are ready.   They don't even have most of the specs close to being done yet, much less glyphs for them.

Guess!

Tibor's picture

Smart money is on month after Blizzcon, ie November release much like WOTLK.  Must always keep in mind what we have in beta is not what is finished, internal testers always several builds ahead.  Also, not everything come out in beta.  Three zones mostly finished, as Tibor understand most of old world mostly finished, so probably November release unless someone accidentally shit all over code.

Skeletal Raptor mount!

kibito's picture

AND!

Xyro's picture

A raptor pet! AND! It has a more Jurassic Park sounding Raptor, because we all know Jurassic Park is the Paleontology handbook :P

But seriously, screw fishing, I know what 90% of my time is going to be pre-occupied by...better break out your shovels people!

Moar!

kibito's picture

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1968-Archaeology-Rewards-and-Preview...

 

BoA epics, and trinkets! I hope they work like the trinket from the Troll event and you don't have to equip to use it.

Very nice!!

Melindra's picture

Dear Blizz: Could we have two boa shields? One for tanks, the other for healy/spellcaster types? That would be swell.

 

Love,

 

Future Tauren Holy Pally

Pretty awesome Goblin video

kibito's picture

Pretty much sums up the entire Goblin starting areas in one awesome video.

 

Alchemists!?

kibito's picture

http://www.mmo-champion.com/content/1981-10-25-Realm-First-Vial-of-the-S...

 

So... who's gonna let me "mount" them? XD

Goblin Alchemist + Tauren = /rofl

 

Oh and Horde guild mount looks frickin' sweet!

 

Hellz yeah

Ikuri's picture

I'll let you "mount" me *waggles eyebrows suggestively*

 

Seriously though? DO WANT

 

Free dragon rides around the Horde city of your choosing to whomever helps me make this!

Wohoo!

kibito's picture

Wait why is there a hunter mark on me?

 

Oh and it's a discovery, but once we find out what the mats are if there's anything a LW can help out with lemme know.

I don't mind if she gives

Cacciatore's picture

I don't mind if she gives rides as long as I get to ride underneath.

Mats!

kibito's picture

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaant

Ikuri's picture

I am dedicating myself to finding that recipe and making those vials. That's just so freaking cool.

Yeah

Talarashne's picture

Gut says it's gonna be expensive. The Gold, one of the other mats maybe expensive at a vendor. Bet it costs 10k-20k just to make.

From what I've read it's a discovery, so we'll have to be sure to be doing our alchemy research and hope to get lucky sooner rather than later.

yeah.

kibito's picture

I love the On use text on the deepstone oil. rofl

 

Prolly going to be on par with the mechano hog. I also wonder what speed you will fly at. Your flight speed or who ever jumps on you. Haha

BTW

Talarashne's picture

Krovalian Gold is an Alchemy Transmute to be learned which transmutes 5 pyrium bars and 10 volitile air to 1 Krovalian Gold.

So the 12 Krovalian Gold are really 12 cooldowns plus 60 Pyrium Bars and 120 volitile air.

The Pyrium Laced Crystaline Vial sells for 12 gold 50 silver and you need 8 of those, so that's 100 gold right there. The Deepstone Oil is made from a fish, so that shouldn't be bad, probably like Pygmy Oil. 16 Flasks aren't cheap but if they expect raiders to use them it won't be terrible cost to get them. Hard to say now what the market will realize but probably around 100 gold per would be my guess. 1600 gold there.

So about 1700 gold for the parts you can buy or make yourself easily, plus the gold stuff. So the gold is gonna be expensive. 120 Volitile Air and 60 Pyrium Bars are gonna cost some money to get the bling.

I'd suggest Alchemists slowly start aquiring the Pyrium and Volitile Air immediately and stockpiling what you get so that once you obtain the recipe through discovery you'll not have too hard a hit.

 

 

Cripes, I hope you 'learn' it

Cile's picture

Cripes, I hope you 'learn' it like a mount or it is in some way reusable then.

Oh yeah yeah

Talarashne's picture

You use it to make a BOP item that when you use turns you into the mount. It's permanent once you make it, but it's BOP, ie you can't sell it.

Probably won't be terribly

Cacciatore's picture

Probably won't be terribly hard to get then, no worse than the flying carpet for tailors, since it will just be a profession specific mount.

Yeah

Talarashne's picture

I mean it'll cost a bit of money, some cooldowns, etc, but I think any Alchemist who wants one should be able to obtain one without too much hastle. The biggest headache will probably just be doing the alchemy research and waiting for the RNG to spring the recipe on you.

Now...

Xyro's picture

I'm not so upset my big bad DK tank is a flower picker...now to just do something about his name Xilvia...

I'm also more than glad this is a perma item. I could have seen Blizzard having your use/make a pot everytime you wanted to transform.

hehe

kibito's picture

They should leave it like that. They wield their human form as a weapon! Though this does kind of piss me off. I think Plainsrunning should be implemented similar to this. Just for the purose of running around in Dal, UC, or whereever else without having to dismount or find a mount small enough to squeeze through on.

Guuuuhhh

Horatius's picture

Part of me wants to try a worgen for shits/giggles, but  my better judgement tells me not to so I can avoid all the alli kids doing their new moon erp.

We need to get this ASAP.

kibito's picture

 

Seriously bad ass looking.

ZOMFG

Tranquility's picture

Goblin shamans. Their totems are mechanical. They look awesome.

Tibor: Question about Mount Hyjal

Talarashne's picture

Tibor,

I've recently entered the Beta. I took the Zeppelin from Borean Tundrea to Orgrimmar to get back, as the portals in Dalaran had been removed. I left the new Zeppelin tower and found the flight trainer very near the tower so I could buy the ability to fly in the old world, and then saw a quest which took me to Vashj. My question though is whether there is a quest that leads to Hyjal. I didn't see one though i could easily have missed it.

Do you know of a breadcrumb quest to take you to the starting point in hyjal for quests, and where that is?

Answer!

Tibor's picture

Is breadcrumb quest, but Tibor forget exactly where is.  Most breadcrumb quests start from either Earthen Ring portal area, or Garrosh, or guy walking around central area of Orgrimmar.  Shouldn't be too hard to find, are not many level 80 quests in Orgrimmar.

(Is also possible at time was just flight path to first point in Hyjal, Tibor forget -- but in any case, was clear sign of where to begin zone.)

If cannot find breadcrumb in Orgimmar, try Moonglade.

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Tranquility's picture

I'm in Vashj'ir, and I got another one half way through the zone telling me the same guy who sent me there from Orgrimmar wanted to send me somewheres else. I expect Hyjal is the new destination, but I have no way of getting out of Vashj'ir until I finish the area.

 

Edit: Warchief's Command Board in a major city can show you to Hyjal and Deepholm.

portal?

kibito's picture

Isn't there a portal back to org? can't you hearth?

Neh

Tranquility's picture

The point of Vashj'ir is being trapped there. I set my hearth to each new subzone I went to, can't get out that way. And now the finishing quest is broken, and I'm stuck unable to complete it.

Um...

Tibor's picture

...swim to surface.  Is island above Vash'jir with flight master on it. 

orly

Tranquility's picture

It'd be nice if they said something to that effect. I eventually found the Sandy Beach seahorse path that took me up to the surface, and from there a ten minute flight to Undercity. Irritating nonetheless. About to start Deepholm now, which is where the other quest the guy in Orgrimmar wanted to put me to. Not having the portals in Dalaran really sucks, I'm very much interested in putting my mage through everything.

Interesting Shaman Change

Tranquility's picture

They rolled the resistance totems into a single one, so one water totem gives Fire/Frost/Nature resists. But you can glyph the Healing Stream totem to give resistances too, so you basically get two totems for one. Nice.

 

 

Mount setup change too, from Wrath. From what I can tell you no longer learn the ability to use faster mounts - instead, you learn the ability to ride faster. So that your non epic ground mount still goes at 100% speed. Allows more diversity.

Hmm

Xyro's picture

I knew they were doing the 280 to 310% flying training, but I never heard of the land mounts change. I do like it thought, now I won't be as confined to my bike and I can start playing with one of my other thirty something mounts...even though I'll probably still end up using the bike in the end.

Goblins

Tranquility's picture

Their racial mount is a trike. Looks like a three wheeled version of the motorcycle, and the 'epic mount' version has flame stripes. Also, it has a jet engine strapped to it.

Ahh...

Xyro's picture

but does it look better than a motorcycle? I'm familar with 3 wheel'd motorcycles, just haven't seen what the goblin mount looks like yet.

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