Soaps Guide to Marks' hunters

This is Soaps guide to the Hunter Class Marksman Spec.
First things First.
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-talents.xml?r=Farstriders&cn=Siopao&g...
This is the Spec i use, it's cookie cutter at best.
The Glyphs are Specific to my Needs, I prefer more Damage over time, instead of increased damage nearing the end of the Fight.
For Example, why is Soaps Using Glyph of Trueshot Aura?
Since the Glyph of Trushot Aura increases Aimed shot Crit by 10%, And Piercing Shots account for 30% Bleed on Target, this accounts for alot of extra damage, which can be sustained throughout the fight.
Piercing shots is triggered by Aimed Shot, Chimera Shot, And Steady Shot..
Why isn't Soaps Using Glyph of Kill Shot?
To me this is a wasted glyph..it really only benefits me during the last 20% of the mobs health, basically only causing "burst damage" at the End.
Ahh, ok now that you have the Spec and the Glyphs..what's next?
Shot Rotation.
First rotation initial contact.
Hunter's Mark
Serpent Sting
Chimera Shot
Aimed shot Macro ...<i'll explain this Later>
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
Second Rotation <cooldown management phase>
By this time....
Chimera Shot
Aimed shot Macro
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
Steady Shot
Are ya seeing a Pattern yet?
This Rotation....I follow it Religiously
For this Rotation to be Perfect...Steady shot needs a Cooldown of 1.5 secs, Haste doesn't hurt, but don't Gem for it
Now that you have the Basic Rotation, what other Talents come into Play?
Marks Has the Advantage of "Readiness" this Spell clears All Cool Downs. <it's your Best Friend!>
How does Soaps make the best of his talents....
I personally Start an encounter like this...Maximizing my damage as soon as possible.
Acronyms INC!
HM, SS, CS, Aimed macro, Rapid Fire, Kill Command, Rediness, CS, Aimed Macro, then ST, ST, ST...RApid Fire, Kill Command, CS, Aimed Macro, ST, ST, ST...etc
After the 3 min cooldown Rediness is ready again. so Rinse and repeat. This is why Aggro control is a PitA for me.
in a six minute+ Fight, Rediness will be up Twice, For the potential of 4 X Rapid Fire, and 8 X Kill Command in that Span of time.
Now for that Macro
it's Easy Peasy..
/cast Aimed Shot
/cast Silencing Shot
Why did Soaps put these two together?
Silencing Shot, and Aimed Shot share the same cooldown, and are both instant...So why not use the Interrupt, and the extra minor boost in Dps, with a negotiable mana usage...it's free dps use it!
When should I go full Armor Penetration?
Arpen Marks Hunters..what can i say sick damage, but before that actually happens you need to be as close as possible to cap <1200 or about 90%> before gemming for Arp. say you have 500 Arp, and then gem everything for Arp...you have 700, be fore buff foods, soo you're gonna hope for 800...the you have the Needle encrusted Scorpion..and you're hoping fot the Proc....Basically once a minute...you're actually losing DPS
By the Way.... the Above number used are Hypothetical.
how do i know? I tried it...and saw a substantial drop in Dps.
Stick with Agi Marks until you can reach 800 Arp before Buffs, then Gem. 15 gems = 300 Arp. + buff foods damn close to CAp..1185., and doing close to 100% penetration all the time.
With ICC ups this is attainable.
Hit me up if ya have any questions..And Happy Hunting!










Very nice
Nice post indeed. If you don't mind though, I would like to debate a few points.
Before that though, I use pretty much the same rotation that you do with a few minor changes. I have kill command, rapid fire tied to my serpent sting and then i have silencing shot tied to chimera shot.
As far as glyph's go, you are pretty much right. I ran the DPS Simulator at www.femaledwarf.com and I used first kill shot glyph then ran it again with trueshot glyph. It did show trueshot to have a slightly higher DPS than killshot on boss fights but it really wasnt a huge increase. I am actually thinking of switching back to trueshot for the fulltime benefits of it rather than only the raiding boss benefits that you get with kill shot.
The part I wanted to debate was the arm pen part. The way I was raised was that when your gear hits 499+ arm pen without chants/gems/food then you can gem for arm pen IF you have the scorpion. Take me for example. With gems I am at 699 arm pen and have the scorp. I have heard the same argument you made about needing higher arm pen so back to the dps simulator I went. From what I gathered if you have the scorpion (with as much as it procs) anything over a total 620 arm pen isnt really helping much short term. When the scorp proc's, if you have 620 arm pen it will put you to a combined 100% arm pen. I even ran the simulator with taking all of my arm pen gems out and putting in agi gems and my dps went up by (if i remember right) 8dps.
With that said, I do agree with your logic if you were to go without the scorpion. And your numbers is the overall goal since we dont want to be stuck with the scorpion forever.
It won't be FOREVER...
Just a few more months before arpen becomes rare to the point of near-uselessness.
How much Dps are we talking here?
Of all the Bosses Currently being experienced by this guild..the fight with the most single target Dps is Actually Koralon, the flame guy in VoA, on 25 man i hit consistantly, 9.8-10k dps, as this fight is the closest to a "standing non-movement, tank and spank"
I used this Fight for the check..full Arp, i was running 800+ with the scorp, and could only Muster 8.5k damage, when i returned back to Agi Marks.my DPS climbed to 9k without any problems.
the Scorpion doesn't Proc enough for me to be dependant on it for DPS, i would much rather be as close to cap without relying on a Proc to hit Cap..i would much rather keep the 300 AP, and roughly 2+% to Crit.
I personally don't use Female dwarf, faceshooter, or other sites, or addons relater to hunters..i feel they don't reflect the true RNG of raiding..it doesn't take into account Sunders, farie fire, etc... All my experiences and Knowledge come from GAmeplay, and so far from hit and miss, this is what works for me.