Screw you Zyro and your OP Battle Rez

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Roobik's picture

Raise Ally has been redesigned to be a battle resurrection, analogous to Rebirth. It is instant cast, but costs 50 Runic Power to use, and has a 10-minute cooldown. It shares the same global battle resurrection cap with Rebirth and Soulstone. - MMO Champion

http://blue.mmo-champion.com/topic/160430/patch-41-public-test-realm-not...

 

Silly Death Knights, getting a battle rez for a non healing class. Might as well give Shaman their tanking spec finally. 

Locks?

Xyro's picture

Never herd one ounce of QQ for Warlocks SS...they're not healers and obviously your not familar with Blood tanking mechanics, sir. Save the QQ for the Shaman fourms.

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Also, Groz...Arnold has something he wants to say to you...

 

You idiots....

kibito's picture

missed the most important patch notes.

  • x Swipe (Bear) cooldown has been reduced to 3 seconds, down from 6.

 

SHEESH!

Must... fight... natural inclinations...

Nergraal's picture

For various reasons my natural inclination is to hate and fear bear tanks as OP competitors.  I am recovering from this tendency, but when I saw this immediately after reading about my shield bash being homogenized away I felt an irrational flash of rage :-D

Last expansion maybe.

kibito's picture

This expac seems to be all about plate tanks. They've been nerfing Bear tanks since the beginning ever since they put the 31 pt talent trees in. I stopped doing heroics b/c I couldn't keep threat on LK group pulls with swipe on a 6 second CD. And I have no idea why they made that change to shield bash. I can only see that as a PVP buff for non prot warriors (via gear swap macro). On the up shot though, shield block got a nice boost to magical damage mitigation.

And now I'm looking at the updated spell changes on MMO and I no longer see the swipe change. I feel quite the cold bitter rage brewing. -.-

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Tranquility's picture

They're nerfing the hell out of tanking warriors. Spell Reflect getting a 150% boost to its cooldown, no more silence in melee... srsly, wtf.

You need it.

kibito's picture

Rend, Thunderclap... /afk.

When your tank outdps'es dps there's a problem.

Whoa Whoa Whoa

Nergraal's picture

We have pummel, which has a 4 second silence instead of a 6 second one.  Honestly in 90% of scenarios that's not going to be a hugely significant change.

Huh?

kibito's picture

I thought they were baking in the silence effect into shield bash so now you have 2 interrupts? 3 if you use heroic throw

No, shield bash is being

Nergraal's picture

No, shield bash is being removed.

ohh..

kibito's picture

Why would they take that out? It's like a signature tank move! Even in Dragon Age prot warriors have it. rofl

What's sad...

Nergraal's picture

...is that they probably think they are doing us a favor.

The shortened silence aside, pummel has a much short cooldown, but I prefer Shield Bash.  30 second CD matches the CD on most OMFG-Interrupt-Nao boss abilities, so I knew when it was coming by the CD on my bash.  Now I'm going to be paranoid everytime I take my finger off that button.

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Tranquility's picture

Shield Bash is on a 12 second cooldown, with a 6 second interrupt, making it one of the best interrupts in the game, keeping a caster unable to cast 50% of the time. Gag Order gives it a 3 second Silence as well, which was important for pulling; charge, silence, run away to drag things to you. Now the only silence we have is the ranged one on a 30 second cooldown. Pummel by contrast is 4 second cooldown on a 10 second cooldown, and no silence.

CRY MOAR

kibito's picture

You have a ranged silence. STFU

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Nergraal's picture

 

Lets just all agree that the Druid AoE silence is the best and bemoan that Blizzard didn't give us that instead of Heroic Leap

yeah that thing is nuts.

kibito's picture

Unfortunately, it's deep in the balance tree. =(

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Nergraal's picture

I hear your point but my primary concern when using SB over HT is stopping the school being cast for heals, or stopping the big boss CD, which pummel will do equally well.  As a tank I just normally don't see the 3 sec silence as being significant, but I've also rarely used it as a Charge + SB.  I'm much more likely to pull with HT or (if necessary) my gun and then use LoS. 

As far as the value of pummel vs SB, it's hard to say.  Both leave a 6s casting window, Pummel just leaves one more every minute basically.  If you are playing a really lock-down fight I could see it being an issue, but you could coordinate that 6th window with another class with a long CD interrupt/silence.

 

Oh wait.

kibito's picture

You have shield slam. I guess that works then. yeah pummel should work alot better for you 10 second CD as opposed to 12.

What they need to do...

Flynn's picture

...is keep the limited-time-only nature of the resurrection, just have it be a hidden counter somewhere between 1 and 120 minutes.

After the raid, someone's sitting in front of the AH and they just fuckin' explode.

Lmao

Xyro's picture

That would be hilarious and horrible! Imagine being at 5% on Nefarion and your tank blows up XD

Lol

Shinwaka's picture

 Our tank's explosion timer is about to run out in a min! Everyone use cool downs!!

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