New Talent Trees

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Zee's picture

So the new talent trees are rather special but hey, we work with what we have. 

It's a given that blood is the new tanking tree so we won't dwell on that one.

However frost and unholy are still up in the air as to their exact roles.  I looked at the talent trees and was a bit unimpressed but here is what I got from it.

Frost is going to be the new PvE dps spec and Unholy is going to be the PvP dps spec.

I have two reasons for this.  First off the unholy talent tree has a lot of talents that are pvp based.  Resilient infection, desecration, unholy frenzy.  These seem to me to be mainly good for pvp and not so great for pve.  Second the play style of the unholy is largely based upon diseases and inflicting them on as many mobs as you can.  While this is great in Wrath, it has been stated several times that in Cata CC will actually matter.  As we all know, CC and AOE do not mix well.  It remains to be seen just how much CC is going to be needed but if its anything like vanilla and BC, aoe isn't going to have regular use in pve.

So given those points, this is the build I am working on for Cata.

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight#-kvjodb7n,,12479

I know I gimp myself by not DW but I hate DW.  It just looks stupid on an undead.  2H all the way!

Eh

Tranquility's picture

http://talent.mmo-champion.com/?deathknight#eYQcJSBZh,,12479

 

Try that. You don't really need the Lichborne, it's a tanking talent. Shares a cooldown with Will of the Forsaken too, so no point if you're undead. The 50% move penalty on anything that's infected with frost fever sounds nice, until you realize that means NPCs won't react the way the tank expects them to, which might wind up causing casualties. Plague Strike is something you won't use frequently, so boosting its crit chance and damage isn't worth the points. This gives boosted AP, and the chance to refresh a rune when you're spamming Frost Strike, which you should be doing. Frequently.

Didn't know it shared a

Zee's picture

Didn't know it shared a cooldown, that was the main reason I wanted to take it.  Two WOTF sounded awesome to me.  Ah well, it makes sense I guess.  I dunno about plague stike, something tells me I will be using it more often now that this rune system is geting revamped.  I have to try out the rune system before I figure out what I want to do.

 

Unholy?

Arahila's picture

I started my DK as an Unholy/Blood hydrid and then decided to shift her into to a tank as all my toons are DPS, even the priest. Don't know yet how best to play that class, got a guide and info off Tankspot. Very tempted to move her back to Unholy and then change my Belf pally to a warrior in Cata. Or cut down on the alts by eliminating her and work on my feral druid. Too many alts, not enough time.

I thought I read some where one

Shinwaka's picture

can't spec into another talent tree in Cata without first spending so many points (forget the amount) into your primary talent tree.

Aye, 31.  Those calculators

Zee's picture

Aye, 31.  Those calculators are set up with that restriction.  You can't cross tree until one has 31 points.

31

bulworth's picture

you get 31 points in one tree and then the others unlock...leaving you 10 whole points to dabble in other trees.

I can't wait

Joxmu's picture

I wanna try out the trees....no, not my druid healer....

Don't bother yet.

Flynn's picture

The trees are still substantially changing, some core abilities still aren't in the game, so don't worry about theorycrafting just yet.  Druids only just got Feral Faerie Fire back in the last build, for instance, and our trees have changed in the last two builds.

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