Gaming PC

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Horatius's picture

In the interst of playing any other mmo besides WoW, I am flirting with the idea of buying a pc just for gaming purposes. My trusty Mac is still great for work, but really limits what I can/can't play (eg SWTOR). That all being said, I have no idea what to look for or where to look. The thing would honestly just be used to play games, and I am not super concerned about the performance level; the basics work for me as I am accustomed to chugging along on the Mac. So let your nerd flag fly on this one guild, what ya got?

note: is Bootcamp a viable option..or just kinda futile?

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Tranquility's picture

I have very little information for Macs, but as far as I know, Bootcamp is essentially just dualbooting your computer with two different operating systems (OSX + Windows), letting you choose which one you want to start your computer with whenever it powers on. Your performance would be no better or worse than single booting with the regular Mac OS, but you would get access to DirectX, which is what really limits Mac gaming.

 

As for a new computer for gaming specifically, are you looking for a desktop or laptop? If it's a laptop, I've been using a Gateway Nv5909H and aside from a few minor issues, it works great for games. Only thing I've encountered that has problems running is the very last parts of Dragon Age, but that's more a problem with the engine not being meant to handle rendering so much at once.

Probably a desktop, as past

Horatius's picture

Probably a desktop, as past experiences with gaming on a laptop lead to beer soaked laptops.  I just don't really want to spend too much cash on what would essentially be a"toy".

Try bootcamp, then spend some $$

The_Magistrate's picture

I'd say give bootcamp a try first since it's free, you'll just need to pick up a copy of Windows to install (OEM versions of 7 run about $100).  Try out some games and see how the performance is.  If they're absolutely horrible, then think about spending money on buying a new system.  NewEgg is running some good deals through the holiday season, so you could probably pick up a sweet combo for cheap.

If you decide to build a system (most bang for your buck), let me know and I can assist with figuring out what parts you might need.

Bootcamp is robust.

kaawumba's picture

I haven't used it for gaming, but I have used it for demanding applications at work (scientific programming) without issue. I anticipate that gaming would be fine, as long as you have a decent graphics card that supports both Mac and Windows. It is worth doing a google check on any specific card before purchasing.

I love Macs but have a gaming PC

Arahila's picture

I love Macs but I couldn't afford to get the beast of a gaming PC I have now as a Mac. This is an Alienware Aurora 3 and here is what Dell says is in it. I have a 24 inch HD monitor and I love it. Wish I could have more action bars now when playing WoW. I don't much like Windows 7, it does some annoying things and Microsoft rearranged all their programs - they call that an upgrade. The Alienware line were the only Dells I could customise like I wanted. The videocard is an NVIDIA, for example.

One caution - this is one big CPU! It is 2-ft deep and that is more than most desks. It also weighs a ton. I couldn't lift and carry it (safely.) It took my brother and father to push the giant (and also heavy) box up the stairs. Cost was 2400 with added software. I suggest getting the full warranty (not at initial purchase, wait a bit and you will get offered a deal.) No way would I crack the case on this beast.

I didn't get the fancy keyboards, controllers, router and other nifty gaming crap. I am asking for MW3 for Christmas so I curious about how The Beast handles that kind of game. WoW is spectacular on the medium garphics settings.

Hope this helps.

Dell IBU: Americas
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1 GH61N PROCESSOR..., I7-2600K, 3.4, 4C, SNB, D2, L
1 R905T MODULE..., DUAL IN-LINE MEMORY MODULE..., 16GB, 4X4GB, 1333, N-E
1 P382H Dual In-Line Memory Module, 4G 1333, 512X64, 8, 240, 2RX8
1 5V1HN MODULE..., KEYBOARD..., UNITED STATES..., KG100, T1
1 H9Y23 Kit, Keyboard, Universal Serial Bus, United States, KG100, T1
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1 J8461 ASSEMBLY..., CABLE..., VIDEO..., LEAD FREE...
1 WGP2G Card, Graphics, Nvidia, GTX, Pentium 4 Prescott DT, 3.6GHZ, 1 MEGB, 800FSB...
1 799XR MODULE..., HARD DRIVE..., 1TB, 7.2K, SGT-PHAR 6G
1 DDJJ0 Hard Drive, 1TB, S3, 7.2K, SGT-PHAR 6G
1 F6405 MODULE..., INFORMATION..., NO RAID, DIMENSION...
1 V3VHG MODULE..., CHASSIS..., STANDARD..., MBK, 525, AUR3
1 FPWDW ASSEMBLY..., CHASSIS..., PWA INTEGRATED..., STANDARD..., MBK, 525, AUR3
1 C447M MODULE..., HOUSING..., CARRIER..., FLEXIBLE..., AUR
1 C439M Kit, Housing, Carrier, Flexible, Aurora
1 J9HNK MODULE..., Flash Storage Device..., UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS..., ENHANCED..., BARE, DEIMOS, ARTWORK...
1 CDM2D Assembly, Flash Storage Device, Universal Serial Bus, Reader, Enhanced, BARE, Teac
1 XPNNG MODULE..., MEDIA..., DIGITAL VIDEO DISK DRIVE..., RDVD, ANW, AUR3
1 6WM69 Module, Accessory, AUR3, England/English, Dao/Bcc
1 8G8T0 KIT..., DOCUMENTATION..., ANW, AUR, R3, ENGLAND/ENGLISH..., D/B
1 F836R Pad, Mouse, Alienware, M17X
1 XM544 MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., PC-RESTORE, TRANSACTIONAL LINE OF BUSINESS...
1 D282K MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., DTSV, BASIC..., 2.0
1 2J4FR MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., CERTIFICATE OF AUTHENTICITY..., W7HP64, ANW
1 JWG84 MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., QUICK FIX ENGINEERING..., WIN7SP1, DESKTOP...
1 M3T3T MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., W7HP64SP1, DIGITAL VIDEO DISK DRIVE..., MUL17, ANW
1 40DV6 KIT..., SOFTWARE..., W7HP64SP1, MUL17, ANW
1 TG4MT MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., W7HP64SP1, ENGLAND/ENGLISH..., D/B
1 28HF0 MODULE..., MOUSE..., UNIVERSAL SERIAL BUS..., MG100, T1
1 KKMH5 Kit, Mouse, Universal Serial Bus, MG100, T1
1 PHCTY Module, Card, Network, BCM, BT-WIFI, United States
1 R20R8 Assembly, Card, Network, MS3871
1 JY578 MODULE..., INFORMATION..., SOFTWARE..., ANW, ALIENFX, AQUA
1 NW96J MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., ADOBE..., READER..., X, MULTI-LANGUAGE...
1 GV8NR MODULE..., DVD+/-RW..., 24X, HALF HEIGHT..., ARTWORK..., PLDS
1 F4GM8 Assembly, Dvd+/-Rw, 24X, Half Height, Serial Ata, Plds
1 YTPW1 MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., ROXIO..., CRTR, START..., FACTORY INSTALL...
1 GP061 MODULE..., PLUG..., AUDIO..., JACK..., 6.1, CHASSIS 2005..., 1.0
1 K615K MODULE..., CARD (CIRCUIT)..., AUDIO..., SBX3, XP/VSTA
1 P380K Card, Multi-Media, Audio, SBX3 XP/VSTA
1 JY628 Module, Software, Alienware AVATAR1
1 0R1D3 MODULE..., SOFTWARE..., OFC-2010, UPL, FACTORY INSTALL..., ANW
1 T9D53 Module, Software, OFCHS-2010, English, Alienware, Dell Americas Organization
1 N99X6 Kit, Software, OFCHS-2010, English, Alienware, Dell Americas Organization
1 3MKHF Module, Software, Soft Contracts, DELL-IN-HOME, Alienware
1 GN270 Module, Information Instruction, FLYER, Dell Home Systems, DT
1 KP776 Module, Software, Alienware, WALLPAPER, AW5
1 397CH MODULE..., THERMAL..., H2C, CENTRAL PROCESSOR UNIT..., ASETEK, AH10
1 HRGD5

ASSEMBLY..., HEATSINK..., H2C, CENTRAL PROCESSOR UNIT..., ASETEK, AH10

 

 

I highly recommend a "gamming

jak3676's picture

I highly recommend a "gamming pc" - desktop, not a laptop for that matter.  I currently have 6 computers at my house, and I've previously done the "gaming laptop" thing.  Getting a customizable windows desktop is really the best (performace/cost) for gaming.  There really is no such thing as buying your computer and then being done with it - just as WoW comes out with an expansion every 2-3 years, every 2-3 years every part in your PC will slowly march its way to obsolecense.  I'd say that part of buying any computer should be planning for upgrades.  Of course you don't have to - you can just wait 3 years (longer if you're OK with playing on medium/low settings), buy a new one and scrap the old one.  If you go with a laptop, that's your only option regardless.  But if you're trying to do middle-high end gaming, over the long term, planning on upgrades is a much cheaper option than buying new every few years. 

I think the best way to plan for upgrades is to build it yourself - it's really not that hard.  But I know that's just not for everyone.  The days of saving 1/2 price by building your own are pretty much gone anyway, because there's a few decent resellers who will essentially do that for you and their rates are even decent.  (cyberpowerpc, ibuypower, etc). 

If you're looking for something right now - here's the spec's I'd recommend.

CPU: Intel i5-2400/2500k

RAM: 8GB DDR3-1600

Video: AMD 6870 or better or nVidia 560 Ti or better. (keep in mind 7000 AMD GPUs are due out any week now and nVidia 600 GPU's will be out just after the new year).

Hard Drive: SSD 128 GB for OS + Games.  You can put all your outher files on a larger regular old hard drive as needed.

Power Supply:  500 watt, 80+ Bronze certified (or better) if you plan on sticking with a single GPU.  You can go up to 750 watt if you want the option of supporting multiple video cards.

I know lots of people like to look into multiple video cards, but then you need to make sure that your motherboard and power supply can handle it.  Also note that WoW does not work well with multiple video cards - in many cases people report getting worse performance with 2x cards than they do if they only have 1 installed.  Most other games do better at this than WoW does, but for the most part you're better off spending all of your video card budget on a single, high-end video card, instead of splitting the cost between 2x med-high video cards. 

That is a lot to digest, time

Horatius's picture

That is a lot to digest, time to do some thinking and eventually shopping...and thanks for all the ideas!

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