Computer Upgrade Help?

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Chemmie's picture

So I figure I'm about due for an upgrade.  I have no issues in wow but get a good bit of lag in starwars.  I figured I'd post what I got and get some opinions.  We are having construction on our basement atm but after that hopefully can spend some money on new comp stuff.  I guess the main question is do I juts upgrade or is it time for a new system?  I'm not a computer wiz with parts so try to keep it simple. I do have a few upgrades from when I oringinally bought it; everything else is orgininal.  Also my internet company offers faster speeds(Cable), I'm on a router with my hubby laptop but he mainly only surfs web on it.

So I guess the main Q is upgrade or new system so I can start saving up some cash after basement is finished. (we're adding a 24x24+ living room, bathroom, and  2nd kitchen and they just started work yesterday WHOOT)

 

My computer -  got it at Best Buy about 3 yrs ago

Gateway DX 4200-09

Windows 7 64bit home premium (upgrade)

AMD Processor x4 9100 Quad Core

6GB Memory (upgrade)

640G hard drive

Display: 1440x900 32bit 60Hz

Video Card ATI Radeon HD 5670 2167MB (upgrade)

 

Thanks in advance... Chem

 

My ping is 37, Download Speed 10.74Mbls, Upload Speed 1.06Mbls

Router: Linksys G WRT54GS

internet speed is no issue

fiermi's picture

The actual bandwidth (how many MB up/down you connection is) is not important to MMO's or really to any sort of online gaming. Granted, if your hubby was streaming video and eating ALL the bandwidth that might be an issue. But as long as he isn't you are golden there. What is far more important to online gaming is Latency, or how long it takes a packet of data to get from your computer to the game servers, and then back to you. This is often called PING (the backronym has been claimed to mean Packet INternet Groper, original developers claim it was a play on ping-pong).

For the nerds, ping refers to a specific subset of the ICMP protocol and the associated ping commands built into windows, linux, and most other modern operating systems. Your ping times lookm great, so that shouldn't be any sort of issue for you either. Is your desktop hard-wired to the router? If not you should definately do that. Playing online games across wireless has a whole set of issues starting at wierd random network slowdowns and leading up to complete disconnects whenever someone trys to use the microwave (dang you crowded 2.4Ghz spectrum!).

 

Looking at your system... Honestly, it doesn't look bad. This is probably why you aren't having issues with the relatively light-weight and simple 5 year old WOW client. Sure WOW has gotten some nice (and needed) graphical upgrades in the last 3 yerars, but really the back-bone of it is still based on very old technology. SW:TOR however is another kettle of carp.

SW:TOR is based on a DX-11 game engine and everything from the character models to the buildings and backgrounds all have far more polygons, effects, and larger texture maps than anything in WOW. All of this needs a lot more computer horsepower to run.

First suggestion: if you can afford it build yourself a homebrew Intel sandybridge (http://goo.gl/2IlBn) based computer with a nice modern GPU (or reuse your current one) in it. A great computer can be built for well under $1500 that will not just kick the pants off your current rig, it will bury it in the backyard, say a nice prayer, then run off with its daugter and have nice little tablet babies. 

OK, your motherboard is a socket AM2+. This means that, normally, you would be able to upgrade to a really nice AM3 CPU. However Gateway has never released (that I can find) a BIOS upgrade to support AM3 CPU's, so you are stuck trying to find an older AM2 CPU. Newegg doesn't even carry AM2 CPU's anymore so you would be stuck trying to find one on E-Bay or Amazon.

At this point I think that puts a Nail in the coffin on the older computer, at least as a gaming rig. It would make a nice file-server or media center computer, and a decent WOW box. But it will never play a moidern game at decent frame-rates with the bottleneck of that CPU.

I will look some more later today (if I have time) to see if anyone has a solution for the CPU upgrade, but it's not looking good so far.

Yeah, the CPU and Mobo are

jak3676's picture

Yeah, the CPU and Mobo are starting to hold you back.  They're not bad though.  I just swapped out my old Core2Quad (fairly comperable to your AMD 9100) for an i5, but kept the rest of the parts the same - I can definately feel an improvement, just in WoW.  If you can, I'd start shopping for a new PC - upgrading the motherboard pretty much means you're starting from scratch anyway.  But if you're up for a bit of DIY, you can save quite a bit by re-using your old components.

If the new route just isn't in the cards right now, I think you can still do a few upgrades to your sysem that will probably help you get another year or so out of it though. 

Adding a solid state disk (SSD) does help a bit.  Even when you have plenty of RAM, various games still spend a fair amount of time reading and writing from the hard drive.  This won't actually improve your FPS at all, but it can help reduce lag or jittery game play.  If you just want an SSD to run your games on, you can probably get by with 60-80 GB total, and keep it to about $100.  But I'd recommend a 128GB SSD which would have enough room to run Win7, WoW and SWTOR and still have a bit of room for growth.  That's be closer to $150.

The other option is to look at a new graphics card.  The 5670 isn't too old, but it's a lower-midrange card.  The 7000 series comes out next week (or maybe the week after).  I've seen pre-release info that looks like the new 7770 (which is an upgrade from the older 5770 or 6770 - their "mid range" card) will perform about where the older 6850 (their "mainstream gamer" card).  It should be priced at about $100-$110 when it comes out.  The current 6850's are going for about $130-$140 and those will probably drop as well.  Of course, there will also be a new 7850/7870 as well as 7950/7970, but those will be closer to $175/$250 and $350/$500 I'm guessing.  The only issue may be that your older 5670 was knows as being the highest you could go without requireing an external power hookup (i.e. no 6 or 8-pin connector coming off the power supply (PSU)).  If you're power supply isn't rated for 450 watts or more as well as having the necessary cabling to support a new video card - you may have to upgrade power supplies too - if so, that's another $100 or so.

At the point where you've upgraded the motherboard, CPU, PSU, SSD and graphics card - you've upgraded the whole computer.   If you want to stay cheaper, you can probably spend as little as $200 and upgrade to a SSD and new GPU (assuming your PSU can take it - $300+ if it can't).  Those upgaded componants could then be easily re-used in a new computer a year or two from now.

In general for AMD, here's their GPU naming convention and the price points they typically aim for, just for reference:

x670 = lower mid-range ($75)

x770 = mid-range ($100)

x850/870 = mainstream gaming ($175 / $250)

x950/970 = "enthusiast" ($350 / $500)

x990 = OMG, I have a hole in my wallet and feel the need to blow an entire paycheck on my GPU just to get another 3-5 FPS out of my rig, also my epeen needs inflating ($700)

(Of course pricing normally has a lot more to do with supply & demand as well as what their competition is doing - but they generally complete at similar price points.)

If these are yourcurrent

Artanna's picture

If these are yourcurrent specs, then you should be running the game fine and at a consistent framerate with medium settings. The only thing that could be slowing you down is the graphics card and the processor. The graphics card is an okay mid range part and can handle most new games on medium to medium high, but it is still about 2 years old if I recall correctly. You may want to look into buying a new card like one of the 6700 ATI series or a higher end 400 or 500 series nVidia series. I have a GTX 460M in my computer and it handles everything pretty well.

In terms of processors, you most certainly want to upgrade if what I'm reading is correct. I wasn't familiar with the chip offhand and did a little bit of searching. What I'm seeing is that the 9100 is a terrible and gimmicky excuse for a processor as it was supposed to be an extremely low power consumption chip for desktops, and what it lost in power consumption it lost doubly in performance. With that in mind, you will most likely want to upbgrade that to something more adequate like an AMD Phenom II 900 series or an Intel i3 or i5. Unfortunately, with both processor upgrade choices you would need a new motherboard as the 9100 is an AM2 socket, and processors for that socket aren't made anymore, not to mention that you may as well upgrade to a current series of CPU rather than a 2 to 3 year old chip.

The upgrades would likely set you back between 300 to 450 USD depending on where and what you buy. With the fact in mind that these upgrades are pretty costly, you might want to opt for a new computer altogether, but if you have the skill, you could scavenge what you can from your old computer and build a new one to save some money. If not, just go for a pre built with parts in the range I suggested above. The only issue with pre built systems is that they tend to have poor graphics cards until you hit the 1300 or 1400 USD mark, espeically if you are buying brand new. I would suggest finding a good refurbished computer tht can either be upgraded for cheap or that is already beefy enough to handle higher end gaming.

Or, if you don't mind laptops, you could go for this one:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834230111

I have that very same one and I can fully recommend it as a great computer. It does all my games on high with consistent framerates of 60 or above, has a large screen, very good hardware, and dpoesn't have overheating issues due to the superb cooling system. The best part is that it is refurbished, and will set you back considerably less than a brand new computer. I received a virtually untouched model, and had I not known it was refurbished beforehand, I wouldn't know at all.

I hope the information I found will be help you decide what you want to do. If you have any questions, just ask.

I wouldn't recomment the

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I wouldn't recomment the 6750/6770 anymore.  They're just re-badged 5750/5770's, and a pretty small improvement over her current 5670.  If you're going to upgrade GPU's now, I'd go for at least a 6850 or wait for the new 7770. 

i am also looking into a new

Ophirrah's picture

i am also looking into a new pc.  i found a barebones package on tiger direct for 515.00 usd that looks pretty nice.  i would have to add a OS and a GPU in it though.  I was looking at the Nvidia GTX560 but my wife laughed when i told her it would be about 800 ish for the system with OS.  My question is this.... is the GTX 520 a good card?

Also do any of yall have the hook ups to be able to build a pretty good system for cheaper than that?  if i went with the GTX520 its only like 50 bucks so id be about 565 for the system then have to put a OS in it.  But i dont know how well the 520 would do in star wars.

Tips are great...... and thanks in advance.

oh forgot to add the processor is a i5.  not sure if thats high enough or not. 

No - the GTX 520 is not suitable for gaming

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It's a very low-end card.  If you look at this chart - http://www.natural-order-guild.com/content/graphics-card-chart-aka-what-..., you'll find it in the 20th tier.  For comparison, I have a 5 year old laptop with the Go 7900 GS which also ranks in the same tier.  I used to run WoW on it back in Burning Crusade.  It would handle single player fairly well, with medium settings (which were much lower back then), but I would drop below 20 FPS when trying to do any raiding.  It was "OK" 5 years 2 expansions ago.  I can still use it on lower settings if I'm just chatting in guild or checking the AH, but I find it too slow and annoying to try to anything more than daily quests or such. 

If you're comparing it to the GTX 560 - a tier 6 card.  Anything above about 7 or 8 is capable of running WoW with all settings on Ultra even while on 25-man raids (provided you aren't bottle necked by the rest of your system). Personally, I'd go with something in the tier 8 category and above right now.  Those start at $100 (less if you go with used from ebay).  If you try to go any lower than that - say $75, you end up with 1/2 the power for 3/4 the price. 

I'd check out http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-graphics-card-review,3107.html and then go the page that best matches your budget. 

If you're not into building it yourself..

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Predictably, the hardware-capable guildies have chimed in and that's a great way to go if you are comfortable with that.  If you are shopping retail, I'd recommend http://www.pugetsystems.com/  I did a lot of research on a lot of companies and have now bought 2 computers from them...a desktop and a laptop and I'm very satisfied so far.  Their customer support is very good and they actually seem like you care when you call or email them. 

I second this, however

Melindra's picture

their computers aren't cheap. I love mine though. Love. Worth every single penny.

From Newegg

fiermi's picture

I threw this together at newegg. These are some really nice parts, so there are a few areas you can skimp and save on. Also, I didn't include an optical drive, which can be added for less than $20 if you need one (I rarely use mine after initial OS install so i have one that gets moved from computer to computer as I upgrade/build).

If you can re-use a case or powersupply, thats a few hundred $$$ there. The powersupply i chose is an INCREDIBLY nice PS, so if you wanted, you could go for a lesser one, But you really do get what you pay for in a PS. this one won't support SLI or crossfire if you ever wanted to do that, but most people never will, so why spend more on a feature you will never use.

The CPU could be stepped down to an i5-2320 for $189, but you are losing around 10% of your CPU for only a $20 savings.

Less than $50 for 8GB of Ram? Why not?

I only listed a single 1TB magnetic HDD. Seagate Barracudas are what i am running in almost all my computers and I have never had one die on me. This or a WDD are great HDD's. If you have the money step them up to a 2TB or 3TB drive if you can, otherwise this will do. Also, if you have the money, take Magechick (Jak) suggestion and get yourself a nice SDD like this: http://goo.gl/fahvu

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Why 2 MB's?

Joxmu's picture

Why 2 MB's?

 

i think thats regular price

Ophirrah's picture

i think thats regular price then price after new egg discount/rebate

Odd

fiermi's picture

I e-mailed my shopping cart to myself (for the formatting) then copy-pasted it to here. Don't know why it put the price like that. It is the original price, then the second number is the price after neweggs discount. So the second price is what you actually pay at checkout (and is reflected in the total).

didnt really think about

Ophirrah's picture

didnt really think about using my old case/hd/ps and stuff.  if i did all i would need is new MB/Processor/GPU.  my current system has 6 gigs of ram and ok stuff but i have 2 questions... first is this... my OS on my old box is 32 bit vista.  would going to 64 bit win 7 really make much of a performance difference and if so cant you get win 7 for like 20 bucks with a student id?  second is this...how would i know if my tower would hold this new MB?  its a ATX tower at least im pretty sure.  but its an older gateway as in the amd x2 age.

also, is a gtx 520 a good

Ophirrah's picture

also, is a gtx 520 a good card or pretty low end?

In short, No

fiermi's picture

The 520 is not a very good card. It is an entry level card. It can do some hardware decoding for HD video and that sort of work. For rendering 3d video games it is pretty weak.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-gaming-graphics-charts/3DMark11-Gamer,2659.html

If you scroll to the bottom of the chart you will find the 520 sitting at 7.21FPS. This is a pretty strenuous test, but for comparison, the videocard I linked above, the 560Ti (NOT the 560Ti/448) N-Vidia reference design (not OC'd or with any extras like most vendors ship theirs with) can pull 48.74 FPS in the same test.

what about the other issues i

Ophirrah's picture

what about the other issues i have like the OS and case?

Vid Cards

Siopao's picture

I'm running a GTX 460v2 by Gigabyte, and it came out to a grand total of 149.00 on Newegg, and i had to upgrade my PS to a 520 watt, (40 bucks)

 

I'm loving it, i can finally run WoW on Ultra settings, and i'm seeing 70+ Fps in Org, and 100+FPS out and about.

Re-using hardware

fiermi's picture

You can Re-Use SOME hardware. Be aware that the core i5/i7 use DDR3 Ram. Most likely your old machine used DDR2, which is NOT compatible (different number of pins for one thing).

As for the motherboard. The one i listed is a standard ATX size. It will fit in any case unless the case is specifiaclly for Mini-ATX or smaller. So any mid tower case will work.

As for an OS upgrade. Yes, Microsoft does offer educational discounts. I think it's more than $20, but definately less than the Street price of around $179. In this day and age you DO NOT WANT an x86(32 bit) os, you want a 64-bit os. The biggest reason, 32-bit operating systems CAN NOT address more than 4GB of ram. This is 4GB total, which includes RAM, Video card, and anything else that has memory cache on it. So if you put in 2 2GB mosules, then load a video card with 1GB of V-Ram, you have at least 1/2 of one of those RAM modules that the Operating system can't even see and use.

64-bit operating systems have a limit somewhere in the terrabytes of RAM range, so right now you are limited by what the motherboards can take and the memory modules currently on the market (32GB of ram for the board I listed).

 

::Edit::

Edited for typos. Sorry, i'm eating lunch while I type, so not as clear as usual.

wow i knew it had a 4gb cap

Ophirrah's picture

wow i knew it had a 4gb cap but didnt know it covered everything.  my gpu i have in there now is if i remember right a 5570 and i think it has 1 or 2 gigs of ram.  if thats the case all i may need to do is the os/mb/cpu

And RAM!

fiermi's picture

Don't forget, DDR2 ram and DDR3 Ram are not compatible!

yeah and i looked at that

Ophirrah's picture

yeah and i looked at that sheet and saw the 5570 is running around 12 -18 fps which isnt too great either...

Why that Mobo?

jak3676's picture

I just bought this one 2 weeks ago - $150 with similar specs except P67 vs Z68.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265

As far as I can tell the only difference between P67 and Z68 is the SSD caching on Z68 and you can use the integrated GPU on your sandy bridge/Ivy bridge CPU.  I guess I see having a backup video output could be handy if your dedicated GPU dies for some reason, but anyone with a Z68 mobo will be running dedicated graphics anyway.  At first I liked the idea of SSD caching, but that's only going to give you a benifit if you aren't already running your OS and games directly from the SSD. 

By the way - both the one Fiermi and I linked are for SLI/Crossfire capability.  If you're staying budget and know you won't ever run multiple GPU's, something like this will work just as well for about $120:  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157279  If you need a micro ATX board to fit a smaller chasis, this will work, but the PCI-E (GPU) slot is only a 2.0, not 3.0 - but that doesn't matter unless you're going to spend > $700 on your GFX card anyway.  This is also $10 cheaper.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157252

Let me see how cheap of a system I can put together with similar performance.  I'll have to see how he did the email formatting trick - that's a nice post.

I'll take the $120 motherboard above and the i5-2500k CPU for $220 (if you have access to a Microcenter, they're only $180 - in store pick up only)

You can save a bit on your PSU, but going with something like this for $55.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182199  I'd just make sure you get at least 500 watts (enough to run a 200 watt dedicated GPU) and it's 80+ or 80+ Bronze certified. 

Saved a few $ on the case, this one is $40, comes with 2 fans, still has a good number of external ports (I can't find USB 3.0 ports for less that $75 though) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147023

This RAM is only $36 - the cheapest I could find for 2x 4GB DDR3 1600 MHz CL9, 1.5v RAM - may not be the best brand name, but I've heard of them.

The $230 GPU Fiermi has above is a good 560Ti with a decent factory overclock on it.  I'd probably prefer and AMD 6950 with a bit of an overclock as well.  The AMD has 3x monitor support, but will perform a bit less for WoW.  I haven't seen any good SWTOR benchmarks to compare them - generally these GPU's perform and are priced identically.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125385

Hard drives have been expensive since the floods in SE Asia this fall - I don't expect prices to recover before the summer.  Sadly, you'll actually pay more for a 1 TB hard drive than you did this time last year.  If you have a old HD floating around you can save $125 here.  This one does come with a free DVD burner - so at least that saves you $15-$20 if you don't have one of those to re-use. 

That brings my total to $830 and change. 

Newegg also has this combo deal for $581 without a GPU and only 4 GB RAM.  But even if you add in a $230 GPU and $40 to get you to 8 GB RAM - that's about the same for $850.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.644166

All of these builds include a nice GPU - that may actually be a bit much for some folks budget.  If we're cutting every corner possible, this video card will still give pretty good performance, but it's $100 cheaper.  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150564  I'd rather have the 560 Ti or 6950, but I realize the $100 extra just isn't worth it for some folks. 

Also: None of these include a copy of Windows 7 64-bit.  If you don't have a copy on hand that can be another $100 if you don't know someone with an MSDN account.  You can also look for the family pack which is 3 licences for $150 - you're not supposed to split it up, but I've known people that did. 

 

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Intel Core i5-2500K Sandy Bridge 3.3GHz (3.7GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 3000 BX80623I52500K

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I'll Give you the mobo

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CPU Type Core i7 / i5 / i3 (LGA1155)  Core i7 / i5 / i3 / Pentium (LGA1155) 
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SATA RAID 0/1/5/10  0/1/5/10 
Onboard Video Chipset None  None 
Audio Chipset Realtek ALC892  Realtek ALC892 
Audio Channels 8 Channels  8 Channels 
LAN Chipset Realtek 8111E  Intel 82579 
Max LAN Speed 10/100/1000Mbps  10/100/1000Mbps 
PS/2  
Video Ports D-Sub + DVI  D-Sub + DVI 
HDMI 1 x HDMI  1 x HDMI 
USB 1.1/2.0 4 x USB 2.0  6 x USB 2.0 
USB 3.0 2 x USB 3.0  2 x USB 3.0 
S/PDIF Out 1 x Optical  1 x Optical 
Audio Ports 5 Ports  6 Ports 
Onboard USB 6 x USB 2.0  2 x USB 3.0 + 6 x USB 2.0 
Other Connectors 1 x IR header
1 x CIR header
1 x COM port header
1 x HDMI_SPDIF header
1 x Power LED header
CPU/Chassis/Power FAN connector
24 pin ATX power connector
8 pin 12V power connector
Front panel audio connector 
2 x CPU Fan connector(s) (4 -pin)
2 x Chassis Fan connector(s) (1 x 4 -pin, 1 x 3 -pin)
2 x Power Fan connector(s) (3 -pin)
1 x S/PDIF out header(s)
1 x 24-pin EATX Power connector(s)
1 x 8-pin ATX 12V Power connector(s)
1 x Front panel audio connector(s) (AAFP)
1 x System panel(s) (Q-Connector)
1 x MemOK! button(s)
1 x TPU switch(es)
1 x EPU switch(es) 
Form Factor ATX  ATX 
Dimensions 12" x 7.5"  12.0" x 9.6" 
Power Pin 24 Pin  24 Pin 
Features Premium Gold Caps (2.5 x longer life time), 100% Japan-made high-quality Conductive Polymer Capacitors

1 x PCIe 3.0 x16 slot

Supports Intel HD Graphics Built-in Visuals

Multi VGA Output : D-Sub, DVI-D and HDMI

2 x SATA3, 2 x USB 3.0

Supports ASRock XFast USB, XFast LAN Technologies

Supports ASRock On/Off Play, graphical UEFI, ASRock Extreme Tuning Utility (AXTU)

Support Intel Smart Response, Lucid Virtu Switchable Graphics

Combo Cooler Option (C.C.O.)

7.1 CH HD Audio with Content Protection (Realtek ALC892 Audio Codec), Supports THX TruStudio

Free Bundle : CyberLink MediaEspresso 6.5 Trial, ASRock MAGIX Multimedia Suite 

Dual Intelligent Processors 2 with DIGI+ VRM Digital Power Design

UEFI BIOS (EZ Mode) - Flexible & Easy BIOS Interface

LucidLogix Virtu (Universal Switchable Graphics) - Auto Switching between Integrated Graphics and NVIDIA/AMD Cards

Intel Smart Response Technology - SSD Speed with HDD Capacity

BT GO! (Bluetooth) - Diverse BT Enjoyment, New Technology Lifestyle

GPU Boost - Push the Limits with iGPU Level Up!

Quad USB 3.0 Support - Double Access, Double Convenience

Quad-GPU SLI and Quad-GPU CrossFireX Support! 

Parts 2 years limited   
Labor 2 years limited   
PCI Express 2.0 x16   1 (@ x4) 
Bluetooth   Bluetooth V2.1+EDR 
eSATA   1 x eSATA 3Gb/s 
Notes & Disclaimers Standard Return Policy  Standard Return Policy 
 
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Mobo

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The main reason I went with the ASUS mobo was name-brand and the extra pci x16 slot (futur-proofing). The ASRock mobo has good stats as well, though I might also look for a Gigabyte or MSI in that price range just because I prefer those brands. 

Z68 Chipset

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From Maximum PC:

 

Everything You Need to Know about Intel's New Z68 Chipset

Intel’s new Z68 chipset brings SSD caching and switchable graphics

On the surface, it’s easy to shrug your shoulders and say “meh” at Intel’s new Z68 chipset.

It doesn’t, for example, add any more than the two SATA 6GB/s ports that the P67 had nor does it add native USB 3.0. The single x16 PCI-E 2.0 isn’t improved either (nor can it be because those are within the CPU). But that’s doesn't mean the Z68 isn't an important step forward. 

In fact, the improvements it brings to the table are actually uniquely compelling. The top new features are:

1) The ability to overclock the graphics core in the Sandy Bridge CPU.

2) An Identity Protection Technology feature that essentially integrates a hardware token in to the PC.

3) Optional support for switching graphics between a discrete GPU and the integrated graphics processor in Sandy Bridge.

4) SSD caching that greatly improves the responsiveness of a system.

 

We’ll discuss them in order as introduced:

While the Sandy Bridge graphics core is much improved, enthusiasts are unlikey to ever need to overclock it as no amount of overclocking will make it supersede a discrete graphics card for gaming.  So, yay, you can overclock the graphics processor, but meh, who cares?

We’re not so bearish on IPT. Much like those key fobs that people carry that generate random numbers, the capability now exists in a consumer chipset and processor. Up until now though, IPT has only been offered in the Q67 chipset aimed at boring corporate boxes. With Z68, IPT could hopefully mitigate some hacking and identity theft situations. Valve has already said that it will support IPT to help prevent account hijacking.

Of more interest to consumers is the ability to switch between integrated and discrete graphics. On P67, even though all Sandy Bridge chips included a fairly powerful graphics processor, end users had no access to it because the P67 chipset had no output — those were only available on the H and Q-series chipsets. With Z68, Intel now includes the Flexible Display Interface that will connect from the processor graphics to the Z68 chipset. Some boards that we’ve seen, such as the Asus P8Z68-V Pro include both DVI and HDMI ports so you can run just integrated if you want to.

But here’s where it gets interesting – board vendors are also including Lucidlogix’s Virtu. Virtu lets you virtualize either of the GPUs. There are two modes available: i-mode and d-mode.

In i-mode, you set the board to initialize the integrated graphics port first in the UEFI. Then you connect your monitor to the motherboard’s graphics port. You’ll need to install graphics drivers for both the Intel integrated part and the discrete part. For our testing, we used a GeForce GTX 580 card. Lucid actually says the best results will come from an ATI card, but we opted for the nVidia card to see how much of a monkey wrench we could throw in it. For a just out of beta product it surprisingly worked well. Would we run it in this mode? Probably not, at least at this point.

When running in i-mode, you are primarily using your integrated graphics and only kicking on the discrete card for gaming. The main sticking point here is that you’ll need Lucid to create profiles for any game that you run in the Virtu mode. Most gamers that we know can’t wait that long when a new game is released. The other issue is power savings. As one of the key points of i-mode you'll likely see only moderate to minimal savings. That’s because unlike a mobile solution’s switchable graphics, the discrete card doesn’t completely power down. Even idling, today’s beefy graphics cards still drink too much power. We’d prefer it if vendors could find a way to power down the discrete card when not in use. I-mode is also currently incompatible with dual-GPU cards and SLI too.

Asus P8Z68-V Pro

We used an Asus P8Z68-V Pro board for our testing

The Asus P8PZ68-V Pro will also support a similar technology from Nvidia called Synergy. At press time, it wasn’t ready for consumption but leaks on the web indicate the technology will be free (Lucid charges board vendors for Virtu) and it will leverage the profiles Nvidia has already developed for its Optimus technology on laptops.

 

Virtu has a second mode available that’s likely to be more handy: d-mode. In this mode, you set the UEFI to boot to initialize the PCI-E graphics adapter first and hook the monitor up to a port on the graphics card. In this mode, the discrete graphics card is in control and any game you run will run without the need for profiles to be created by Lucid. So what would ever use d-mode for? To access the Quick Sync technology in Sandy Bridge. Yes, Sandy Bridge’s graphics performance will never best a serious GPU, but believe it or not, the transistors that Intel has dedicated in Sandy Bridge for encoding and transcoding are mean mothers. How mean?

We took an Asus P8Z68-V Pro board, plugged in a Core i7-2600K, 8GB of DDR3/1333, a 1TB Western Digital Black drive and a GeForce GTX 580 card. Running in d-mode, we used CyberLink’s MediaEspresso 6.5 to transcode a single VOB file to a generic WMV file suitable for playback on an HTC smart phone. Using the GeForce GTX 580 card took 142 seconds. We then used Virtu to allow us to access the QuickSync mode on the Core i7-2600K chip which took 109 seconds. That’s about a 30 percent faster for the integrated grapics. Now think about a transcode that would take three hours. Would you rather use the GeForce GTX 580 or the Core i7-2600K’s Quick Sync?

 

Lucid’s Virtu control panel lets you switch on the fly between the discrete card or the onboard graphics.

The coolest new feature of the Z68 isn’t switchable graphics or anti-hacking features though, it’s going to be the Smart Response Technology that’s built into the, umm, Rapid Storage Technology drivers (Intel, who seriously comes up with these names?).

SRT allows the Z68 chipset to use an SSD to cache often used data from a hard disk. This, in theory, offers up to a 4x improvement in performance over a hard disk drive alone.

Setting up SRT

Normally, setting up new technology is pretty self explanatory. That’s not the case with the SRT. With Intel’s new 20GB Larsen Creek in one hand, and a 1TB 7,200 RPM Western Digital Caviar Black drive in the other, we weren’t sure how to set up SRT initially. The process is actually quite simple. All you have to do is attach both drives to the board – an Asus P8Z68 V Pro board. Boot the system and go into the UEFI and set the Intel controller from its default of AHCI to RAID. Now boot to your install disc and install Windows 7 to the hard drive as normal. You can’t enable the SRT until after you’ve installed all of the drivers. Once you do, you simply go to the RST driver and click on the Accelerate button.

From there, you select the drive you want to use as the cache drive, pick the disk you want to accelerate (normally C:) and then pick the mode: Either enhanced or maximized.

Enhanced is the safer of the two and ensures that all data is written to the HDD. In this mode, read performance is improved but write performance will be no better than the hard drive in use. Think of Maximized mode as write caching. Data is written to the SSD first and then synced to the hard disk as time allows. If there is a power outage, or a blue screen before all of the data can be synced – poof your data is gone. The maximized mode, however, does offer write times close to what the SSD should be able to write to.

Ideally, SRT is intended for people who can’t afford massive 240GB SSDs but want “SSD-like” performance. Using SRT, these folks can buy smaller SSDs and get that SSD-feel. In fact, Intel is hawking its new Larsen Creek SSD to these people. A 20GB SSD, the 311-series drive offers reads up to 190MB/s and writes up to 100MB/s all for $110.

For our testing, we used the aforementioned Asus P8Z68-V Pro board outfitted with a Core i7-2600K, 8GB of DDR3/1333, a GeForce GTX 580 and a 1TB Western Digital Caviar Black. We used 64-bit Windows 7 Professional with SP1 installed and latest Nvidia drivers available. We ran PC Mark Vantage 64-bit and CrystalDisk 3.01 with just the 1TB drive initially. We then turned on SRT in maximized mode using the 20GB Larsen Creek Intel SSD and reran both tests.

We didn’t want to be gated by the Intel drive so we also used OCZ’s Kick-Ass 240GB Vertex 3 in the mix. We ran the same tests using the Vertex 3 in Maximized mode and Enhanced mode. Since the Vertex 3 is SATA 6Gb/s, we also made sure it was running off of the Intel PCH’s SATA 6GB/s controller. One thing to know: the SRT mode has a maximum cache size of 64GB. The rest  of the space on the SSD can then be partitioned into a separate drive. For this test, we opted for the 64GB partition which could contribute to the performance difference. We suspect, however, that’s really the exemplary performance of the Vertex 3 that’s really to be credited.

The results speak for themselves.

 

The hard drive trace tests in PC Mark Vantage as well as the synthetic tests in CrystalMark show that the SRT mode is pretty phenomenal. The best results came from the very fast and very expensive OCZ Vertex 3. But even the $110 Intel SSD yields very good results. You can’t benchmark “OS feel” but we can tell you that using the 1TB 7,200 RPM drive as our primary device – even with 8GB of RAM and the Core i7-2600K – was teeth gnashing slow. We’ve just forgotten how slow hard drives are compared to SSDs. With SRT and the Intel drive in place, the drive noise was greatly reduced as we no longer had to listen to the heads clattering all over the platter and it “felt” faster.

To get a feel for how much you give up in maximized vs. enhanced modes, we ran the Vertex 3 in both modes. As expected, generally the write speeds suffer greatly in enhanced mode while read speeds are mostly intact.

 

 The Upshot

Overall, we’re very pleased with Z68. We agree that it doesn’t give chipset fanatics the red meat they want: USB 3.0, more SATA 6 and more PCI-E, but there is a lot of good here that shouldn’t be overlooked. The IPT is good feature that we’d want once more vendors begin supporting it.

And obviously, the switchable graphics mode has some maturing to do. While we didn’t have any show stopping problems, it’s not the best documented feature nor easy to understand. And, frankly, it is tough to justify using it. But we honestly think that as Virtu matures and once we see Nvidia’s own Syngergy take on it, switchable graphics could become the standard on desktops for those who want to save power. One disclosure though: The current Sandy Bridge graphics does not support dual-link display for use high resolution 30-inch panels. With the H-series chipsets that was never a serious issue for us because few would drive a 30-inch panel with integrated graphics. With Intel pushing Z68 towards mainstream/enthusiasts, it has now become a problem.

The big hit for us is the Smart Response Technology. It works, and it works well. The best performance will always come from a dedicated SSD. But as all of us have learned from trying to live on small SSDs (and small VelociRaptors before that) you sometimes end up spending more time freeing up space than computing. With SRT and a very fast and even big SSD you can get the best of both worlds. You could use a portion of the SSD for cache, and store your games and other files that need speed on the remaining partition of the SSD. With a 2TB as your primary drive, you can be freed of the need to manage your data.

Would we upgrade if we had a P67 board? No. Yes, Z68 is good, but it’s not worth the upgrade from P67. However, if we were out to build a new system for Sandy Bridge we would opt for Z68 over P67 just for the SRT mode alone.

As you can see, Z68 adds very little in terms of hardware over its processor, the P67

 

Intel is introducing a new 20GB 311-series drive codenamed Larsen Creek at $110 just for those who want to use the Z68’s Smart Response Technology SSD caching technology.

 

meh

jak3676's picture

 /shrugs

Yeah, its some more neat tech, but I don't see it being worth another $40 unless you're really going to use it.  If you have a 16-32 GB SSD lying around and you've realized that you just can't fit everything on it that you need to - this is a great way to get some more use out of it.  But as the graphs show - in all cases you're better off just getting a larger SSD and putting everything you want onto it.  I don't think you need to go as large as they did (240 GB SSD is overkill), I have Win7 64-bit and WoW on my 128 GB SSD and I'm just 1/2 full.  I could easily fit SWTOR on there too and still have room for something else.  If you were going to use the integrated GPU, it would also be a very nice chipset.  But I just wouldn't get any benifit out of it in my situation.  If it was $20 price difference, I would have picked it up anyway, but when I was comparing P67 vs Z68 for the same brand mobo with the same specs, the Z68 was at least $40-$50 more.  meh

MoBo

Siopao's picture

the motherboard is a work of art, it's beautiful

Mage (jak)...

Chemmie's picture

Soooo, if I buy everything listed here (I can still use my old case and dvd drive?) plus a copy of windows 7 I should be gtg?  Am I going to have any trouble installing any of this stuff?  Or do I just put it together throw in the windows disk and it will work.  I've installed a video card and memory before that s about it.  I saw a similar setup on bestbuy.com for $1200 so thats a price diff if I do it myself... versus your $928  the only diff I noticed was a Radeon HD 6850 vs the 6950

Best buy Gaming Computer

 

 

 

I'm showing that link you

jak3676's picture

I'm showing that link you provided at $1004.99 - not bad.  I'd say that's about $100 more than I'd want to pay, but having a manufacturer warrently is probably worth that much if you're not comfortable doing it yourself.  Even if you are, there's still some value in having someone else do it for your (and be responsible to fix if if you F it up)

The 6850 vs 6950 is worth about $75 right now - but the 7970 just came out and the 7950 and 7850 should be out in the next week or so - that may drop 6xxx prices a bit.  (7950 ~ 6970, 7870 ~ 6950 and 7870 ~ 6870) 

I wouldn't pay $1200 for that, but $1000 seems good. 

Just so people know

fiermi's picture

RAM Requirements...

Running just

Windows 7 64bit

Mumble

SW:TOR

and Windows Resource monitor

 

I have seen over 4GB of RAM used. Thats running nothing else, no Pandora, no Netflix, no Internet Explorer/chrome/firefox.

Just mumble, the game, and resource monitor.

So if you have 4GB or less RAM you may see a performance upgrade if you add just a bit more RAM.

Add RAM in groups of 2 sticks at a time. Look at your motherboards manual to find out which slots on your motherboard are paired and make sure that your sticks are in the right slots so your computer can pair them and take advantage of Dual-Channel RAM. If you are building your first computer just make sure you read the manual that comes with the motherboard. Most of them are easy enough to follow along with and they have some very useful information in them! (NOTE: Three sticks per channel if you have an Intel processor on a socket-1366 motherboard)

  Well kinda looks like its

Chemmie's picture

  Well kinda looks like its about time to start shopping for a new one, I wouldn't mind having a blueray disk and some other things like that too.  I did just recently bought some of the memory hopefully I can reuse that.  Also I wouldn't mind using an hd connection on my monitor (monitor doesn't have one). I do know that I was told if I wanted to go a better graphics card I was prob gonna need to upgrade my power supply also.

  I figure between $1000-2000 I can get a new whole system.. After all I let my hubby buy a 3D 52in tv that we NEVER watch in 3D (gives me headaches).  I just have to do some explaining and show him what you guys wrote, he doesn't get that computers need upgraded consatntly to keep up now.  As soon as we get the new construction paid off I'll prob start shopping, maybe give my dad or sis my old one.  I'll also keep the list of good upgrade you guys listed while shopping.  Fermi posted a nice one.  Thanks and I'll keep checking back to this post.  Least I know to start saving and what to look for.

Here is my e-mail you can send me links too if you find something.  Looks like some other members are looking for upgrades too.

sandlwalters@atlanticbb.net

 

That puget systems site looks pretty cool now make me a suggestion for it lol

Mack daddy deal-seeker Bhut sez

Bhuta's picture

If you're feeling froggy you could try extorting a deal out of bestbuy like I did (see post: Me vs Bestbuy)...

OR

I wholeheartedly reccomend watching woot.com

They typically offer powerhouse desktops in the $500-$600 range (sometimes $400 on refurbs) where you'll get plenty of processor speed (3 gig quad cores), memory (8+gigs), storage (fast 1TB satas), and an acceptable mobo.  Drop $300 on a good video card and power supply and you'll have a respectable gaming rig for well under a grand... maybe below $700 if you play your cards right and don't need top notch eye candy.

Wont have to worry about buying OS, assembling, overclocking, any of that (if you don't want to).  Just installing the video card and psu, which I think there was a post on last week (minimal effort).

The kicker is, you can't be in a hurry.  Woot.com offers these anywhere from 3x a week to 1x a month... only one deal a day, and they take a couple weeks to deliver. Same can be said for a "monitor", as long as you don't mind using a 30"+ HD tv, they can be had on woot for less than most OEM 17" monitors.

Another drawback is getting a retail pc... even the business class machines tend to be loaded with bloatware... but if you want to save a few hundred or half a grand, definately worth considering.

If you go this route, just make sure to watch every morning EARLY, (good) computers usually sell out by 9am EST (sometimes sooner).  They also have iphone/android apps so you can see what on... my morning ritual is to check it right after shutting up the alarm on my phone.

Just don't play the flash game to win a "Bag-o-crap", because if you get one (I always get in too late, or lose)... I'm gonna kick your ass. *shakes fist*

Cheers!

Das Bhut

We have spent sooo much money

Chemmie's picture

We have spent sooo much money at best buy in the past 3 year they should GIVE me a new pc.  SERIOUSLY.  Anyhow my hubby totally flipped when I told him a needed a new comp "its only 3 yrs old" (actually 4) but then I reminded him he bought 2 new tvs in the past 2 years, dicussion over mwah haha.

 

Most IT guys

Bhuta's picture

will give a rig a 3 year shelf life (IF you're buying high end).  I usually upgrade/replace mine every 1.5-2 years. Tech is progressing so quickly you really don't have a choice.  For shits and giggles look at the reccomended system requirements of a 2 year old pc game, and one that just came out.   Every year it's more eye candy, more data, and all at a faster speed.  You'we done great to keep a pc for 4 years!

ill take your old 1.5 year

Ophirrah's picture

ill take your old 1.5 year box lol

Well... I stagger em out a bit

Bhuta's picture

It was a 1.5 year old laptop.  Havent gotten rid of the 2 year old box (yet) but it's just used for a media center now.  My new laptop chews up swtor and spits out wow, so no need for the desktop.  Usually it's one or the other getting replaced.  But yes, I probably do it a little early but I cant stand for anything to bottleneck my performance... don't get bent out of shape about jagged edges or eye candy... but even the slightest lag and I get pissy. 

Which is why I try to

jak3676's picture

Which is why I try to champion the manta of continuous improvment and upgrades.  Rather than budget $1,000 every 3 years, you incementally upgrade as you go.  I generally budget $200-300 a year for new parts.  In addition to being cheaper in the log run, you get the added benifit of having a rig that constantly closer to the top of the line.  The system does break down a bit when you hit a major generational change (e.g. DDR2 to DDR3 RAM or socket 775 to 1155), but if you plan ahead a bit you can still work to make sure you're getting a long-term product.

Of course this only really applies to desktop gaming - laptops just don't have many options for upgrades.

Seriously.

Flynn's picture

The last computer I personally owned that I didn't build myself was an Atari 800.  Build a PC with an eye toward the future, and you can get a ridiculous amount of time out of it before you need to drop a ton of money.  I built my machine about four years ago, and so far the only major upgrade I've put into it is the video card a year ago.  It's only now starting to really show its age, and really the only game I've had major issues with is SWTOR (and that bastard crushes certain specs, for some reason).  Later on this year, I'll probably drop about $600 bringing it up to speed again, and won't need to touch it for another 36 months or so.

Here is what I got..

Chemmie's picture

Thanks you guys sooo much for all your help.  The one at bestbuy you can actually order driect from the company and cutomize it.  Here is what I got.  The were having SuperBowl sales lol.

Total with shipping 998.00

 

Gamer Scorpius 8000 (NO MONITOR) DRAGON8000Z, http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Scorpius_8000/

  • *BASE_PRICE: [+735]
  • BLUETOOTH: None
  • CAS: Thermaltake Commander Mid-Tower Gaming Case
  • CASUPGRADE: None
  • CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
  • CD2: None
  • COOLANT: Standard Coolant
  • CPU: AMD FX-4100 3.60 GHz Quad-Core AM3+ CPU 4MB L2 Cache & Turbo Core Technology
  • CS_FAN: Default case fans
  • ENGRAVING: None
  • FA_HDD: None
  • FAN: Asetek 510LC Liquid Cooling System 120MM Radiator & Fan (Enhanced Cooling Performance + Extreme Silent at 20dBA) (Single Standard 120MM Fan)
  • FLASHMEDIA: None
  • FREEBIE_CS: None
  • FREEGAME_VC02: None
  • GLASSES: None
  • HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
  • HDD2: None
  • IEEE_CARD: None
  • IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
  • KEYBOARD: None [-4]
  • MEMORY: 8GB (2GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Kingston HyperX)
  • MONITOR: None
  • MONITOR2: None
  • MONITOR3: None
  • MOTHERBOARD: * [CrossFireX/SLI] GigaByte GA-990FXA-UD3 AMD 990FX Socket AM3+ ATX Mainboard w/ Ultra Durable™ 3, Dual Bios, On/Off USB Charge & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB 3.0, SATA-III RAID, 4 Gen2 PCIe X16, 2 PCIe X1 & 1 PCI [+73]
  • MOUSE: None [-3]
  • NCSW: None
  • NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
  • OS: Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
  • OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
  • POWERSUPPLY: * 650 Watts - Thermaltake TR2 RX Modular 80 Plus PSU - PN: TRX-650M [+57]
  • RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 10~15 BUSINESS DAYS
  • SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
  • SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
  • SPEAKERS: None [-5]
  • TEMP: None
  • TVRC: None
  • USB: None
  • USBFLASH: None
  • USBHD: None
  • USBX: None
  • VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 560 2GB 16X PCIe Video Card [+70] (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
  • VIDEO2: None
  • VIDEO3: None
  • WNC: None
  • _PRICE: (+923)
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